This move is cool, it has a nice atmosphere and makes your fantasy and thoughts wander when you see it. Yea sure some bad cgi scenes, and some horrible casting (Matthew Lillard), but still... it's a great fantasy sci-fi movie! I play a lot of computer games, and this movie is right down my alley; the action scenes are packed with stuff from the game itself, and other games. Submarine tactics and warfare in outer space - can it get better!? :-)
I remember rushing home from 7th grade to go see it. It was a good film, just wish some things were different. The budget is what killed this film I thought, too cheap.
Heh. A lot of people I've talked to didn't like how they messed with the fighters. Personally, I like the whole "WWII in space" feel, so I rather liked the new look of the Rapiers.
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After watching the first two Star Wars prequels and then rewatching Wing Commander, I can see all the problems in their ugly glory. The direction is utterly terrible, for one thing. The actors have an even mix of really stilted dialogue and perfectly serviceable dialogue. The fact that they cannot get either right is a good sign that the direction was lousy at best. The utter lack of acting talent other than actors whose careers are... let us say, in a lull... also doesn't help. Saffron Burrows' career never got off the ground thanks to this film, and Jürgen Prochnow's next memorable appearance was in The House Of The Dead. The fact that the plot tried to do too much in the film's running time did not exactly help.
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This was a good Sci-Fi flick in '99. I never played any of the WC video games, but I followed the story just fine. Its a great space adventure, a desperate fight to save our home planet from destruction. Fans of the TV show Space: Avove and Beyond would like this movie. Very similar in look and feel. I especially liked the fact that there was starfighter battles as well as battles between the capital ships. They fire broadside cannons at each other like the sailing battleships of old. The only other time I've seen this in space battles is in the recent Star Wars EspIII opening battle scene. Star Trek frequently has a lot of capital ships fighting each other, but they alway fire from a distance.
I wish the Kilrathi alien race was explored a bit more. Probably due to budgetary reasons, we hardly ever seen these cat-like aliens. I read some where that they weren't planned to be seen at all.
For the DVD, I enjoyed the movie but I was very disappointed that there were no deleted scenes. I especially hoped to see the subplot about Adm Wilson being the traitor and Blair ends up killing him. I believe this was filmed, but it was not on the DVD. Too bad.
I probably would have enjoyed this film a lot more if the Wing Commander games hadn't been my life for several years. The fact that I was so into that universe made me set myself up for disappointment with this movie really. It just couldn't live up to the games. I suppose as a stand alone movie it was ok though. I just didn't like what they did with A) The plot and B) the characters.
I saw this last night, taped off the BBC, for the first time - though an SF fan, I'd never even heard of it before. Certainly I didn't connect it to the game until reading these posts. I liked it; yes of course it was cheap, but I too think they wrought wonders with what they had, largely thanks to the CGI ships which were mostly excellent and - I suggest - the presence of veteran production designer Peter Lamont.
The opening sequence hooked me - the scattered radio clips, bulding on Kennedy's moon race speach, the start of the war with the Kilrathi - it recalled The Forever War, etc. Actually I say 'etc' advisedly, because this was full of borrows from/homages to other films/TV/books (eg Babylon 5) which, whilst obvious, nevertheless worked for me, and I'm not uncynical about such stuff. I also liked the little bit of internal mythology re the pilgrims.
What really struck me, though, was how much it echoed - that it, prefigured - the Battlestart Galactica remakes, right down to the atmosphere, mix of real-world tech with SF and threat to earth. Remarkable.
This film had some ambition and class, and it pretty much succeeded. It was old fashioned and fun and recalled the days of the original Star Wars. And that's an order!!
I have to admit this movie had something about it.
It was tacky in places, though the greatest let down I feel was when David Suchett's character got rather predictably killed, to enable the more gun hoe XO to take control.
I just happened to run across this on HBO and it was the first I'd ever heard of the movie. I was a fan of the games however so I couldn't resist giving it a watch.
I think most of the major pit-falls of the movie have been hit on in this topic already but I'd like to just agree with what someone else wrote. I think if anyone should be singled out for horrible casting/acting it should be Freddie Prinze Jr. I really don't know anything of his work but judging from this movie alone I think he needs more practice, particulary with his facial expressions. Throughout the majority of this movie he looked the same, either normal look or wide-eyed, open mouthed surprised look. Lillard may not be a great actor but he at least was a little more animated while Karyo and Prochnow were probably the highlights in the acting department.
I wouldn't go so far as to call it great, probably not even all that good, but given what they had to work with I think it was decent and kept me mildly entertained for a little while on a boring sunday afternoon.
I'd have scored it a little higher than what it has here, maybe 4.5 to 5 depending on how much I've been drinking at the time of scoring.
I also caught it on HBO over this past weekend. I hadn't seen it in a few years, and I must say that it wasn't nearly as bad as I remember. I loved the naval atmosphere of the Tiger Claw. The clautrophobic bridge, the manual loading of the torpedos and missles, the hand-drawn space charts, the vending machines in the messhall. It was all very well designed. Plus, any movie where a character yells "give 'em a broadside!" is worth a watch. I actually saw it the day it was released in theaters, mainly to see the Star Wars Ep 1 trailer. After it ran, a whole group of people got up and walked out. I still don't understand that. Did they all have an appointment to keep? Whatever.
Without a doubt, the failure of this movie rests on the shoulders of two people: Freddie Prinze Jr, and Matthew Lillard. Sure, Lillard was a blast in the original Scream. But he seems incapable of playing any other character. Todd Marshall is just Stew Macher in space. Instead of killing humans, he kills aliens. I kept waiting for him to shout "It's a scream, baby!"
At least Matthew Lillard has some personality; a screen presence. Mr. Prinze can't act, plain and simple. He spends most of this movie with the same passive, vacant stare on his face. Even after he computes a jump faster than a computer, all he can muster is a "whoa." He fails to establish any kind of connection with the audience. Personally, I would've liked it better if he didn't get rescued in the end. At least his sacrifice would've brought some empathy to the character.
Of course, you must consider who hired those two in the first place. Was it studio suits, who wanted the film to target teenagers? Was it because Freddie and Matt were cheap to hire, but also recognizable? Or did Chris Roberts actually believe he could get great performances out of them? Whoever made the call, they were wrong. And they paid dearly for it. It's a shame, because the foundation for a quality flick was there. They even had a good supporting cast. Tcheky Karyo, David "Gorkon" Warner, etc. Oh well. At least it was better than Alone in the Dark.
Im pretty sure science fiction means you are supposed to portray actual "science", albeit in a fictional manner. This movie was horrible in that regard. Did the people responsible for the effects not know ANYTHING about sound, velocity, etc. in space? I mean . . they could have at least tried to make it look realistic.
Yeah, I love this movie. I played the playstation game before I ever saw the movie. But I've REALLY REALLY wanted to read the books and keep forgetting to ask my dad for them. >.<
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup."
Ah, I didn't know the whole Pilgrim thing had been made up after the games. O_O I love the playstation game I played (don't remember which one it was. Price of Freedom, maybe? I dunno). Yeah, I like the idea of no mystical powers/intuition. I didn't know that'd been made up for the movie too. :(
I like Mark Hamil playing the role of Christopher Blair in the games. I loved the guy who played Maniac in the games too. Always got a kick out of things he did/said. My dad said Blair's and Marshall's relationship in the games is how it is in the books. I like the idea of Blair and Marshall NOT getting along better than the idea of them getting along.
I must get those books. I asked my dad and he said they're somewhere in his room. Been waiting patiently, cause I keep forgetting to remind him.
Yeah, I suppose they should save the mystical powers thing for Star Wars where it belongs. As I think about it, it seems in a way that the movie is almost a copy of Star Wars, with Blair being Luke and Han in a way. *shrug* But then there are only so many story lines to work with.
I dunno.
I still love the movie though. :)
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup."
Well actually most sci-fi set in space take a naval approach when it comes to battles.
Personally I don't have any qualms ith the science in the film; sure they were "pinging" the enemy and couldn't tell a black hole from a quasar, but eh whatever.
I thought this was pretty good. I remember seeing it in the theatres when it came out. It has a lot of good sci-fi/war elements, but the only thing that kinda didn't work for me was the whole religous thing. I understood it and why it was important and all, but in the context of a sci-fi/war movie, it just didn't work.