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Which is the real ending?


Even though it is just a matter open for interpretation, which do you think is the real ending and/or which ending did you like the best?

My favourite ending was the last one (i'm a sucker for happy endings), but i think the real ending was the first one where Lola dies and in her mind she imagines two other outcomes that could have happened.


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Oh. That's a good interpretation. I personally think it should be whichever ending you like best. I, personally, like the happy one. I'm a sucker for them, too.

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there are no interpretation, retards .


This has to be up there with the seminal "Your an idiot".

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How is the third ending happy? Her father and his friend die. All endings are equally happy, with different people coming out on top.

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Vater's not her real father, that's revealed in the first segment. Also, there's no way to know if they're actually dead or just knocked unconscious, like the guys in the beamer.

Incidentally, for anyone who didn't notice, the guy who stole her moped dies in the accident.

Listen to the commentary, certain aspects of this film are intended to be open to interpretation. There aren't any definitive answers, although most of the posters here are missing the mark to staggering degrees.

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Her father didn't die, he's the guy in the ambulance. Unless it was the security guard, but i think the 3rd time it was her father because she held his hand. She wouldn't do that for the security guard because he was an a-hole.

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No, the guy in the ambulance whose hand she was holding, was the security guard. They had a special connection, because he subconsciously remembered things from the other scenarios, just like Lola.

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I think they are all real and legitimate endings. The film is flirting with the concept of probable realities, and so each ending represents a reality for a different Lola. It is also logical to assume that there are many more ways the story could/can/does end.

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The last ending is definitely the best. She came out with some cash too!

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common guys did you actually watch the movie?

there is no "ending". the point(s) of the movie is that love beats all. that though can be manifested into action. that predetermination can be changed(ironic)... etc etc

the point is. each 20 minutish segment isnt different from the other. notice how Lola gets educated on how to operate a gun in the first segment, then REMEMBERS how to do it later on when holding up her Dad.

this isnt 3 short movies. its one normal leangth one. rewatch it and open your mind

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It's true that Lola learns throughout the 3 segments, but the world around her does not. The glimpses we see of the future of the people she bumps into while running, is an obvious nod to 'the butterfly effect', or chaos theory, or simply how a small, seemingly insignificant change can have a dramatic effect later in the chain of events that is life.

The woman she literally bumps into could be thinking about buying a lottery ticket the very second Lola bumps into her the first time, then Lola interrupts her train of thought. The second time, was perhaps a split second later, so she had enough time to think of it and decide to buy one.

Small change, huge effect.

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Well said, Fenris! I love the imdb boards; when people post intelligently, their posts really do enrich one's appreciation of a movie.

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Amen to all of you.

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I took the first segment as sort of a half-dream that reflects her anger in the relationship with Manni, hence the conversation after it. Then, after the 2nd segment, where Manni dies, that reflects HIS anger in the relationship. The third segment is the happiest, and there is no angry conversation after, showing that their relationship is back on track.



Just a young boy under the influence of drugs...who killed his entire family with an ax.

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it's the whole 'life is a game' concept, implicit in the video game sequences... like game over, and restart... we studied this for film study.

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finally someone hit the nail on the head

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I'd like to think it's the last one. This movie quite possibly has the best last line ever. "What's in the bag?" YESS. haha.

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The last ending is my favourite, I like happy endings too and I liked how everything worked out for both of them.

That stupid policeman in the first ending was an ass, how could he just shoot Lola like that?

The second ending for me was very said because that was just Manni's bad luck.

"The things you own end up owning you."

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I think there are not more endings. The other two possible endings are only thoughts of Lola when she is dieing. In that moment here live skipped in here mind and she thinks about what could have happened if she did it differently. When she dies she first thinks about Ammie (or what was his name)and she ask herselves if he really had loved here. In fact she gave her love en live to him. She tries to save his life, but she get shot for it. In the second storyline she think on a way too succees, but at the end of this storyline she is not sure of him (because he in a kind of way let her die)and on the last second she let him die because of a silly caraccident (just very ironic, she survive a bankrobbery and other things and he dies because a simple car accident). Then she remembers a dialogue with ammie (because he had asked what would happen if he would die) and she realize that he had really loved her. Then she thinks about the happy ending (last storyline). Thus the two later storyline where just thoughts. This will make sense because this last story lines where absolute not realistic. She robbs a bank and the police let her go... In the casino they let her go with wrong clothes, not enough money en then she wins twice (statistically not realistic...) Mannie gives the gun away (dangerous!) and came away with giving too less money (some money was already spent).... and some more.. Only the first storyline was really happening, its was the bad one and the realistic one. Still the filmmakers let us see what could have happened, with so less change....

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I like that interpretation and I agree with it. It's almost as if she's thinking "if only things were different" as she's dying in the street and we see what could have happened with just the slightest difference in her run to the bank.

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I still go along the thought process of her having supernatural powers. Of course that's just how i interpreted the film, i could have easily accepted any your conclusions and could have enjoyed it more or maybe less, but i like to think that her an manni are above the world around them and therefor able to demand it to change for them.

I met Death today. We are playing chess.

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Casino part,
I thought of it as she asked 'god/earth/whatever' for help, and they did by her winning.

Not to mention, it is highly unlikely but still possible to win, it's gambleing.

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my head: *boom*

omgggg thats so sad if thats the way it is

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The policeman doesn't shoot Lola on purpose. He's distracted by the bag flying up in the air and his gun accidentally discharges. He looks stunned and horrified when he looks back down and sees that he's shot her.

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It's not three possible random outcomes of a given situation as in Sliding Doors, it's something else. As someone already said, she's learning to correct her mistakes seemingly subconsciously each time around. Why she gets to relive this scenario isn't something we get to know.
I don't really like the whole casino thing, but there are other weird stuff going on so why not, maybe it's the dream case scenario. For every choice we make, there must be one that ends up unbelievably well. Maybe that's what this movie is about. What if you could tweak your choices after you learned the outcome?


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The best ending is the middle one in which the worthless little thief Manni gets overrun by an ambulance. LOL

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Agreed. My single biggest problem with this movie was that Manni was far and away too stupid and inept to be worth saving. Not only does he leave the hugely important and valuable bag on the subway instead of attaching it firmly to his body; he also goes around the street with his gun visible at the back of his waistband in broad daylight, and runs away from a robbery holding the gun in his hand (instead of dropping it in the money bag, for instance) so the cops can more easily know who to arrest. And he hands the gun to the bum after getting back the money bag: I was astonished the bum didn't promptly shoot him and take it back again. What a nitwit.

If Manni dies, she can return the money to her dad's bank and probably get a reduced sentence based on temporary insanity or something, because she didn't hurt anyone and restitution would have been made. Then she can go find someone who will be actually worth her time and heart.

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The real ending is the first one imo, because it's not very likely that you'll meet up the same bum twice in a large city like Berlin, and extremely unlikely that you'll win on the same number in roulette twice.

My favorite ending is the second one, because of the bank robbery scene and that Manni's death was a punch in the gut for Lola.

Lola has memories of her past selfs, one example was she remembered how to use the gun in the second part of the movie.

Reminds me of playing a video game (like Super Mario) where I know how to avoid certain obstacles after consecutive plays.

"Goats and monkeys!"-Othello, Act IV,Scene 1

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I was several times in casino watching roulette. It really happens that the same number is drown twice in a row.
Of course noone plays for the second time with whole amount won in first drawing. But Lola was in desperate mood. Winning of 3500 DM was not a solution at all.

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What I think is that none of them happened, the in between scenes where the two are talking in bed are just Lola imagining a terrible situation based on what the two were talking about...I need to watch it again, I am sure there is plenty I missed though

Thats my guess

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Yeah, I'm glad someone mentioned that, I thought it was just me. The whole thing totally resembled a video game. The cartoony avatar lola running down the spiral stairs; the beginning of the level. The having to redo the task over and over, learning new helpful things along the way which further her changes to accomplishing it (such as the safety on the gun; jumping over the guy and his dog). It was a cool movie. I totally agree with those of you who believe all 3 outcomes all occurred.

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Haha zjm,
Mario, you mean like when you get killed so many times that by the time you beat the game you can do the first few levels like the best expert in the world?
Haha feel ya there bud.

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Resurrecting an old thread but this comment just made me do it, haha.

and extremely unlikely that you'll win on the same number in roulette twice.


The chances of the outcome of two roulette spins being 20 and 20 is just as much as, let's say, the outcome being 20 and 12. It's always 1/37 (or 1/38 in America)

And to the OP: There is no "real ending" this film is all about 'what-if' scenarios. The point of it is to show us how even the smallest things can have a tremendous effect on our lives. - Let's say you first met your best friend on the train because you were reading his/her favourite book. What if you had decided to read the newspaper that day? Or what if you had missed the train and had to take a taxi? Or what if you had called in sick that day?



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The chances of the outcome of two roulette spins being 20 and 20 is just as much as, let's say, the outcome being 20 and 12. It's always 1/37 (or 1/38 in America)


I agree - if she had bet on a different number the second time it would have made no difference to the probabilities, though it might have been less dramatic, due to the natural superstition of the audience. The original statement would be more accurate phrased thus:

"...extremely unlikely that you'll win on a single number in Roulette twice in a row."

The overall probability is, of course, 1/(37*37) = 1/1369, or 1/(38*38) = 1/1444 in America.

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I don't think there's a true ending. These are just examples of outcomes.

Hard to get your head around! Could be read that the last one is the real ending, and the first two are how it could have ended up or vice/versa.

"The task of art today is to bring chaos into order." - Theodor Adorno

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...real...ending...?

why...what...why is there this weird insistence that one is "right" or that only one is "real"?
Gosh, we're trained to be so limited in our thinking...this isn't the real world, why can't all of them and none of them be "right"? why can't it be a world that has three (or more) endings?

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I do not know what is real ending. I know what is proper ending. The third.
During first run Manni harms people in the supermarket robbing money. He is punished by death of shot Lola.
During second run Lola violates other people in bank robbing money. She is punished by death of Manni hit by ambulance.
Please realise, that only during third run nothing harmful has happen. Nobody shots. Money is organized is other, rather mystic way. Lola and Manni are both rewarded.
"Lola rennt" is not a realistic movie. It's a kind of modern fairy tale. Please do not ask for real meaning of some scenes. There are mostly symbolic.

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I think the film is just showing three possible scenarios of what can happen because of one slight change. I don't think it's fair to choose just one ending...but I do like your interpretation, grezza.

"Laura Harring looks like Samuel L. Jackson." - Franzkabuki

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After listening to the commentary on the DVD, I got the impression that the director meant for each scenario to have actually happened and for each to be instilled in Lola's subconscious, affecting her future decisions (shown by her knowledge of the mechanics of a gun in the second situation). The director also commented on the ending where Lola finally meets up with Manni and she has a sort of strange/stoic look on her face (I'm not exactly sure how to describe it) which is her coming-to-terms with everything that just happened (first her death, then Manni's, and then the reunion). This is contrasted by Manni's enthusiastic walk and grin, showing he has no recollection of the past events. Her smile at the end is indicative of how she understands that everything worked out well, despite all the crap she just went through.
But that's not to say that this interpretation is the ultimate authority and everyone else's is garbage. It's not like there's one set way to look at the film.
Sorry if that was kind of hard to understand. I'm not very good with words >.<

She's got two jobs. She's a pastry chef and a sniper.

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Or maybe the first two endings are all in Lola's head, being the outcomes of extreme paranoia. She is thinking of all the bad things that could happen, and by thinking of them, she is able to avoid them and ultimately end up surviving with Manni.

"Laura Harring looks like Samuel L. Jackson." - Franzkabuki

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