Although he was sinister, it felt like a self parody of his Return of the Jedi performance. His episode VI portrayal felt more natural. Also, I though his Palpatine make up in IV was creepier. It looked kind of fake in this one at times.
shareI really didnt find him sinister at all during this film. He was way over the top to the point of being goofy to be taken seriously.
shareHe was way over the top to the point of being goofy to be taken seriously.
You can't be serious. The emperor in Rotj was far more superior than he was in rots. The fact you saw him as bland and that the Rotj Palpatine was one dimensional really speaks volumes about your taste and it ain't good. People who were laughing at his performance was due to him being embarrassingly cheeses and no longer intimidating.
shareNo. It only speaks about your poor taste. Because Palpatine in the prequels was actually one of the few things that is generally considered something that the prequels did better than the originals. Palpatine in Episode VI hardly had any personality other than being evil and merciless. The prequels actually made him a more believable manipulator, who was charming, intimidating and had many other traits. How the *beep* was he intimidating in Episode VI? We never got to know why people were so afraid of him except that one hint when Vader said "He is not as forgiving as I am". Heck, even the only power he demonstrated was lightning and removing Luke's handcuffs. I mean, the OT did a good job demonstrating how powerful Yoda was, but never Palpatine. While in Episode III and the Clone Wars series we got to see that he was even more powerful than Yoda. In fact, Palpatine was one of the prequels redeeming qualities.
shareI stand by what I said.until Rots he was fine but in the last prequel they dropped the ball and finally officially ruined everything. If you like Palatine acting like a goofy retard making funny faces and cackling like a fool then that is your misfortune.I bet you really liked the his dialogue "no,no,no,no, no.....no,no you will die" or "ULTIMATE POWAAAAAAAAH".YOU are WRONG and there is no more to it, Good day. There was nothing particularly special about him in tpm or aotc. His plan was nonsensical and depended on everyone being total idiots. There was no mystery and it was absolutely pointless to try and create any as people with brains figured it out in the first appearance in tpm even if you had not seen the OT. I will end it here as I do not particularly care for conversing with people with shytty taste.
shareIf you like Palatine acting like a goofy retard making funny faces and cackling like a fool then that is your misfortune.
YOU are WRONG and there is no more to it
Yeah, I have stated several times why he was a failure. Hey, if you like over the top cheesiness more power to you. If you had any intelligence or good taste you would recognize that the majority reflection means squat. Saying he was the best thing in a poor movie is not a compliment. People(you) that praise him for over dramatic embarrassing performance all say the same thing over and over again. And lastly, my comment stating that I am right and you are wrong had nothing to do with maturity as it is a fact. Now take you shyty taste and shyt for brains and piss off.
shareDude, you're not even arguing. You're only behaving like a child throwing random insults.
you would recognize that the majority reflection means squat. Saying he was the best thing in a poor movie is not a compliment. People(you) that praise him for over dramatic embarrassing performance all say the same thing over and over again.
First, if you read my replies in the thread I stated ad nauseum why his performance was bad. Also, you "majority say so" argument holds absolutely no water and is a stupid argument. If you want to play that game,then know that every thread I have seen on the subject agrees with me. Hell, majority of people thought that cinematic piece of crap The Hangover was funny or even a good movie. The majority of people are often not the brightest, look how many people voted for Trump. What it seems to be is that yo u are a follower. Call me immature,ha, nothing is more immature than the "everyone else likes it".I'm having no tantrum, I am being blunt and telling you what you are.I actually find you somewhat amusing.
shareI'm having no tantrum, I am being blunt and telling you what you are
look how many people voted for Trump
Absolutely, and besides he fought with the lightsaber like a sissy.
shareI love his eruption into a hammy freak. He justs lets it all loose when his identidy is exposed
shareSome of the most compelling acting from the prequels can be found in those early scenes between he and Hayden. Particularly the Darth Plaques monologue in which he explains to Anakin the importance of brushing. Agreed it degenerates into a ham-fest when he turns into Richard Lynch but it's hammy in the best way possible!
shareI thought he was one of the best parts of the movie, I didn't find his portrayal any more melodramatic in this than I did in Return of the Jedi.
He also wasn't in IV, I think you may mean VI.
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Ian's Emperor portrayal in Return of the Jedi feels like a caricature of the Emperor character after you've seen him in the prequels.
shareIan's Emperor portrayal in Return of the Jedi feels like a caricature of the Emperor character after you've seen him in the prequels.
He indeed was overl the top in a cringeworthy way in rots. He was more subtle and menacing in rotj and didn't look like a cackling fool that inspired amusement and laughter than fear or seriousness.
shareTrue that.
Even though certain parts of Ian's performance did indeed make me scratch my head, I like to think that the reason why he was cackling and enjoying himself is because his decades long plan of toppling the Jedi and taking over the galaxy was finally coming to fruition. He could barely contain his excitement.
Not to mention, he just knighted Anakin as Vader and was very proud of himself. Anakin was arguably the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy and he got him to turn to the Dark Side. After Vader's loss to Obi-Wan., he knew Anakin now would never be "more powerful than either of us" (as said to Yoda).
Notice here, that after he finds Vader barely alive, his temperament calms down and he's back to being reserved and brooding like he was in ROTJ.
I don't know, maybe I'm just talking out of my ass. *shrugs* :-)
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Awful absolutely awful.
Christensen and Mcdiarmed turn the film into a ham sandwich
The fight scene between Mace and Sidious, at least Samuel L Jackson looks like he has handled a lightsaber before and is believable as a master of fighting.
Nonsense, McDiarmid is brilliant.
He is so reserved and cold as Palpatine, and once he is unveiled as Darth Sidious he unleashes years of pent up rage, desire, greed, wrath.
He is the embodiment of evil and unbridled hate, a nasty and grotesque representation of the Sith. I love how all of it comes oozing out once he's revealed.
Vader, Tarkin and Dooku are cold enough, I like how the big arch baddie ENJOYS being an evil c@nt. He's the Joker of the Star Wars universe.
I see, so you want a cliché over the top, cackling goofball to represent a character who was more frightening when he was more collected, subdued and not making funny faces with slapstick humor.I suppose everyone doesn't have good taste and find the caricature of Palpatine appealing.
shareLol at the end of the day ALL villains don't have to be "collected", some of them are stark raving mad, and Palpatine is essentially evil incarnate. Who needs subtlety when you're basically the devil himself.
"They say time is the fire in which we burn."
Lol, being evil incarnate is no excuse for him to act like a goofy ott fool. I imagine the evil incarnate is a concept in which the subject is actually menacing and didn't include making funny faces in near slapstick scenes where Palpatine stands their laughing and cackling in a cartoonish way. If they wanted to make him gleefully evil they could have done it in a different way. With that a said the character was portrayed poorly, took people out of the movie and ruined one great character that managed to stay in untarnished in the first two prequels, but no Lucas made sure to screw up him the last prequel. Anyway, still bad taste.
share[quote]took people out of the movie and ruined one great character/quote]
I think you have a hard time deciphering the distinction between fact and personal opinion.
"They say time is the fire in which we burn."
took people out of the movie and ruined one great character
The point is Palpatine wasn't like that in Jedi, and most people feel he was more evil and scarier in that than in Revenge of the Sith.
He laughs and cackles several times in Return of the Jedi, and don't tell me the "ohhhh, I'm afraaaaaid the Deflector Shield will be quite operational, when your friends arrriiive" line wasn't anything less than deliciously hammy.
"They say time is the fire in which we burn."
Cackling a couple times and taunting Luke is a lot different than what we got in this movie, which was like a knock off Joker after his duel with Mace Windu.
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