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From a point of view, Palpatine told Anakin the truth.

posted 8 years ago by dsims8
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Ok at the end, it is obvious Anakin had been deceived by Palpatine with him thinking he could save Padame by turning to the dark side.

Palpatine then goes to say, "In your anger, you killed her!" which is a stark fallacy from what really happened during her birth. The robot stated that she lost her will to live. She died of a broken heart.

If one were to think about it, Palpatine could be telling the truth from one point of view. Padame died from a broken heart that was caused by Anakin turning evil. So with that being said, he is indirectly responsible for her losing her will to live.

Anyone agree or disagree? And why?

[–] otter 8 years ago

I disagree. Anakin turned to the Dark Side, and Padme died anyway.

Personally, I think everything Palpatine said was a deliberate lie - he couldn't bring the dead back to life any more than he could make the rebels vanish with a wave of his hand. He just knew what Anakin wanted, wanted badly enough to do break all the laws of Jedi and man.

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[–] KingCobra686 8 years ago

I dont think that Palpatine was upset about Padme dying and he probably even hoped for that to happen, but I think I agree.

At that light show event, Palpatine gave Anakin the story about Darth Plageuis supposedly being able to control life. He never said that it was 100% factual or that he could do it himself. When Anakin asked how to learn that, Palpatine said that he wasnt going to get that from any Jedi teaching. No lies were told there.

[–] Conan-1982 8 years ago

Well that's the beauty of it, one of the few subtle moment in the prequels: that's why love Palpatine, don't we ?

He is a horrible axxhole and he has all the good villain qualities, including the manipulative words that are half-true and half-false : way better and more subtle than just flat-out lies.

Ever seen The Exorcist ? The priest said the Devil mixes lies with the truth to confuse people even further.

I like that idea : the best villains are the smart ones and old Palpy is just like that, I love that guy.

The thing that doesn't add up IMO is why isn't Anakin angry at him: he still doesn't realized he got screwed ?

He yells "NOOO" like he is a victim of cruel fate and misfortune: shouldn't he yell at Palptine something like "You motherfxxxer !!!! You ruined my life !!!!"

[–] InternationaleClique 8 years ago

He's afraid of him. That's why you never see a Sith apprentice be anything but absolutely subservient to their Master.

[–] Aticusfinch 8 years ago

Darth Plagueis might not share that opinion.

[–] InternationaleClique 8 years ago

Darth Plagueis was killed in his sleep. Probably because his apprentice was too afraid to ever confront him openly.

They all act subservient though, but of course only until they're not. That is also the way of the Sith, betrayal.

[–] bjshipley1 8 years ago

To be fair, that treachery is by design (at least as outlined in the Legends continuity). When Darth Bane founded the Sith "Rule of Two" he told his apprentice that it was her job to overthrow him when she became powerful enough. He actually started getting worried when a couple decades passed and she hadn't tried it yet, though she eventually challenged him in open combat and won.
The expectation was that every master would choose one apprentice, who would eventually overthrow them and choose an apprentice of their own, and the cycle would repeat. That way the Sith as a whole would grow stronger and stronger over time.

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