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Chemistry between Ben S and Bill P


I was surprised to see how well their friendship was portrayed and how natural it flows

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Agreed. It's in the script, and both these actors are brilliant. Brilliant chemistry between Bill P and the female lead as well.

My accountant says, "1 + 1, 40% of the time, equals divorce".

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Friendship? Arlo leaves at the end.



"Here's to our beautiful family, our black president and my magnificent dong."--Hank Moody

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It's possible to be someone's friend and not want to work for them.

Stark offered Arlo $5MM to sell out Daryl, and not only did Arlo refuse, he threatened Stark with bodily harm. Arlo was certainly loyal to Zero.

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Arlo was enabling Zero by being his proxy in the real world. Zero needed to get out and experience it himself, as Arlo says.

He wasn't betraying the friendship by ending the employment relationship.

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even if he stayed...friendship?

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Conversely, you can be loyal to someone who is not a friend.

I don't really see Zero as having any friends. What does Arlo tell his friend Bill in the beginning about Zero?

"He's some kind of recluse. A complete freak. No social life. No social skills."

Who would want to be friends with him? He's a jerk. He makes Arlo fly from LA to Portland then back again just to answer a phone call. He turns the TV off when Arlo is watching it. He yells and swears at Arlo. He subjects him to his horrible singing. He makes him work when he wants to spend time with his fiancee. Zero is a jerk, but Arlo feels sorry for him because he is alone and socially inept. Eventually, though, Arlo gets fed up with Zero and "working for the Starks of the world," and he leaves him.

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I agree that it played as a real friendship, very much in the Holmes/Watson Wolfe/Goodwin traditions. We know that Watson left Holmes several times (often frustrated!) but never stopped being his friend. And Goodwin threatened to leave Nero Wolfe roughly every other story!

Zero and Arlo have a similar relationship - a good, smart man is friends with an eccentric genius who, when all is said and done, needs the more "normal" person in his life to ground him. I think that Pullman and Stiller pulled this off perfectly. In fact, possibly only Chaykin and Hutton ever succeeded quite as well (in the Nero Wolfe series). Great stuff.

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Spot on, Patrick (as Watson might say).

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I agree, even though stiller talked a bunch of crap at the bar, who doesn't get stressed out by their employer from time to time.

What demonstrated the strength of their friendship is when stiller told the guy(cant remember his name ATM) that he would shoot him if he tried to go into the hotel. He was VERY protective and matter of fact about it. I saw this more than just an employer relations bit. Also when stiller got hung up by Zero describing her as charming.

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I believe the threat was a well executed bluff.

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