Plot Hole?
At the beginning of the film when Ryan is visiting the graveyard, the movie begins as Ryan is thinking giving the impression that we are seeing his story. Even though he wasn't with the men for the majority of the film.
shareAt the beginning of the film when Ryan is visiting the graveyard, the movie begins as Ryan is thinking giving the impression that we are seeing his story. Even though he wasn't with the men for the majority of the film.
shareGreat! Another total misuse of the term plot hole.
Here's a clue Sherlock.... Just because you assumed something not true, and can't understand... does not make something a goof. Much less a goof so bad the whole plot of the film fails.
I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!
What exactly am I not understanding? How are we seeing Ryan's vision when he wasn't even storming the beaches or with the team on the mission to save him.
shareWhat exactly am I not understanding? How are we seeing Ryan's vision when he wasn't even storming the beaches or with the team on the mission to save him.
It's not a plot hole. More of a misdirection, although we are given clues that the old man is an Airborne veteran and therefore cannot be Miller. Still, the ride in the landing craft is presented as if it is the old man's recollection of events, yet it cannot be.
Many were confused by this.
Live long and prosper.
I got the same impression when I first saw this film. It clearly makes one think "why was old man Ryan baby-sniveling over men he hardly knew and therefore couldn't have had an emotional attachment to?"
It was just so senseless.
That coast guard sailor boy is the resident a*Shole who likes to demean everyone who misses the slightest nuance in these films. He does it on other boards. Stand up to him and he will call you "troll" and then leave the board for a while.
God dam you are a twat. No way Ryan could have 50+ years to reflect upon what those men did for him, right? No way could he feel remorse for all of those men and their families, right?
shareGod dam you are a dip bulb. If Ryan had any reason to baby snivel over these men he had no attachment/connection with, it would have been soon after the war/event. Not 50 god damned years later. Jeez, get a clue moron.
shareYeah, no way coming back to the place where the men died for the first time in fifty years would make Ryan emotional, twat.
shareAgain, used tampon face, Ryan didn't have any emotional attachment to these men. Then. And certainly not a half century later. That is the problem with this movie. Many have taken note of it. Vaginal discharge.
shareJust because you are not intelligent or mature enough to ever have an emotional attachment to a person doesn't mean no one else ever makes emotional attachments.
Ryan saw the looks in the men's eyes when they were telling him what they went through to get him, and the looks in their eyes when he wanted to stay. He, unlike you, is intelligent enough to understand the sacrifices they made for him.
Honestly, I don't know why I'm bothering. You are obviously either a troll or just someone who isn't even as intelligent as a pile of dog turds.
For the umpteenth time, dork, Ryan didn't have much of any emotional attachment to those men. Just watch the movie from the initial scene. How many times you unintelligent moron do you have to be told this? God.
shareFor the umpteenth time, dork, Ryan didn't have much of any emotional attachment to those men.
your brain is warped from AIDS from sucking so many d!cks in the men's room glory hole, we know your opinion is sh!t.go f^ck yourself.
Others have been here saying what I've said.
Resident fan boys always abuse report function and engage in nasty personal attack (see what you did above) and that chases most off.
Plenty of people think the same about this movie and that ignorant plot hole.
Plenty of people have come here over the years and said the same. If you want to believe it is voice in head, go ahead and fellate yourself, then.
Resident fan boys do attack those who express any negativity about "their show", a*shole. You can ignore the truth, it doesn't change it.
For the last time, you intra uterine device people, this movie is lame-O.
Like I said, child. Just because you are too shallow and immature to understand how Ryan could have developed a bond with the men who risked their lives to come rescue him doesn't mean he didn't.
There are stories all the time of people who become friends after one of them helps the other in an emergency. Some cop helps out a family in need and they end up forming close bonds.
And, that isn't done under the stress and danger of war.
But, I'm sure you are so stupid you'll call it a plot hole, even though you don't actually understand what that is.
Like I said, sissy boy. Ryan had no connection with those men to be baby sniveling like that over them. That is one of the biggest whoppers in this sham of a film. No matter how many times you claim it.
shareLook, just because you only bond with men buy licking other guy's come out of their azzes doesn't mean everyone does.
One day, when you get to be more than 12 mentally, you might understand that, but I doubt it.
Don't bring your sex pervert fantasies here to this board and project onto others.
Ole man Ryan had no emotional connection with those others. He wasn't around them long enough. Massive plot hole.
Speaking of massive holes; you like to tongue out your mother's massive hole that she acquired through too-many-to-count double anal videos.
It isn't my fantasy - it is what you keep PM'ing me begging to do to me.
Ole man Ryan had no emotional connection with those others. He wasn't around them long enough. Massive plot hole.
Never PM'ed you about anything. Another lie you have concocted.
No, it is not a 12yr olds thought. It takes a 12 yr old, who has no experience in life, to not see the plot hole in this movie and to fall hool/line/sinker for it. Ryan didn't spend enough time with these movie characters to baby snivel like this.
It's just a bunch of mamby, pamby get in touch with your feelings booole shyte designed to feminize men. Pure and simple. Lets' just all admit to this.
Ryan didn't spend enough time with these movie characters to baby snivel like this.
It is true. Just watch the movie. Fan boys like you are just playing make believe in your head that real life happens just like this movie and its plot. Real life doesn't. Just ask the actual veteran; universally didn't give a rat's a*s about any new guys.
And many over the years have come to this board and given the same critique and have been mercilessly chased off the board with nasty personal attacks. Happens on other forums.
You are the one who's wrong.
It is true. Just watch the movie.
Just ask the actual veteran; universally didn't give a rat's a*s about any new guys.
And many over the years have come to this board and given the same critique and have been mercilessly chased off the board with nasty personal attacks.
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No, it is you who becomes belligerent when your "favorite show" is criticized.
The bond this movie portrays between Ryan and those other men is what needs to be proven. It is not allowed to be assumed. ANd doesn't make any sense since Ryan hardly knew them.
The character Ryan was a veteran,
Just ask the actual veteran; universally didn't give a rat's a*s about any new guys.
You already indicated you didn't see the film; you claimed Ryan wasn't a veteran.
Ryan had no emotion for those other men. They had none for him. DOn't try to twist my words by taking them overly literal.
This movie is lame-O. As well as you.
No, you made the point that veterans wouldn't form a bond with a new guy. I pointed out that Ryan was the new guy and we weren't talking about the bond the other guys formed with him.
Ryan had no emotion for those other men.
They had none for him.
More double talk and blather from you. There is no emotional bond between those men and newcomer Ryan. No way in hell.
I'm not the only one who sees a plot hole. OP mentioned which is the reason for the thread. This type of subject has been one of the main topics here for years. Fan boys, like yourself, have abused the report function to get the threads deleted. No surprise here.
I don't need proof. Spielberg needs to provide it. And he didn't.
Saving Pvt. Ryn = lame-O.
More double talk and blather from you. There is no emotional bond between those men and newcomer Ryan. No way in hell.
I'm not the only one who sees a plot hole.
I don't need proof.
Spielberg needs to provide it.
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No one else here or in other threads agree with your stupidity.
That coast guard sailor boy is the resident a*Shole who likes to demean everyone who misses the slightest nuance in these films. He does it on other boards.
I call him Coast Guard sailor and he seems incensed about it. At least, last time he did, some years ago. Maybe he's immune to it by now. Especially now the boards are going away.
He almost reminds me of that banjo kid in Deliverance. Ultimate insult, there.
The one thing I've always remembered about him, and there are several of these types on IMDB, is that the more esoteric/trivial detail the more confident he gets. So, I keep it as much as possible to discussion of general things. He just seems consumed by all this minutiae. Where does he get the time to do such? Beats me.
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Yeah, he certainly seems like one of those emotionally immature morons who is so shallow he doesn't understand how or why normal people create bonds.
Ryan visits Capt. Miller's head-stone fifty plus years after Miller died. Ryan has had all that time to think about what Miller and the rest did for him. Who knows? Maybe Ryan even visited Miller's widow when he got back to the states.
But, being a child, tplast has to see everything on the screen for him to understand it.
He reminds me of the chubby kid from Stand By Me. When they are listening to the story about the pie eating contest, and all he wants to know is if the guy had to pay to get into the contest.
Exactly. Furthermore, his assertion that combat veterans don't emote is total bullsh!t as well. I've known and seen interviews with many WWII vets. When people get up in age they do tend to get more emotional when remembering their experiences, especially veterans of THIS war.
TNSTAAFL
In his defense, his mommy never cut the cord so she's the only one he's ever bonded with.
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