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When was masturbation invented?


it seems people in the 50's knew nothing about it.. What a dumb movie..

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I invented it when I was 12. I knew I should have gotten a patent. Damn!

No offense, but you're an idiot.

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Google John Harvey Kellog (preferably while you're eating your cereal), and you'll see why that would have been a taboo in a 50'es tv show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg

Scroll down to his views on sexuality.

Kellog did work a bit earlier, but the sentiment did not change that much.


One of the things Masters and Johnson found out when they started their human sexual response studies in 57, was that about 70% of the American population would have had "an abnormal amount of sexual self-stimulation" according to the established medical view at the time.




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Re: John Harvey Kellog and view on masturbation
From: Wikipedia

Kellogg worked on the rehabilitation of masturbators, often employing extreme measures, even mutilation, on both sexes. He was an advocate of circumcising young boys to curb masturbation and applying phenol to a young woman's clitoris. In his Plain Facts for Old and Young,[8] he wrote:
“ A remedy which is almost always successful in small boys is circumcision, especially when there is any degree of phimosis. The operation should be performed by a surgeon without administering an anesthetic, as the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind, especially if it be connected with the idea of punishment, as it may well be in some cases. The soreness which continues for several weeks interrupts the practice, and if it had not previously become too firmly fixed, it may be forgotten and not resumed. ”
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“ a method of treatment [to prevent masturbation] ... and we have employed it with entire satisfaction. It consists in the application of one or more silver sutures in such a way as to prevent erection. The prepuce, or foreskin, is drawn forward over the glans, and the needle to which the wire is attached is passed through from one side to the other. After drawing the wire through, the ends are twisted together, and cut off close. It is now impossible for an erection to occur, and the slight irritation thus produced acts as a most powerful means of overcoming the disposition to resort to the practice ”
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“ In females, the author has found the application of pure carbolic acid (phenol) to the clitoris an excellent means of allaying the abnormal excitement.

That was one strange dude and after reading that how can anyone eat cereal and not think of masturbation?

Like others have noted, sex was going on back in the '50s but it wasn't something talked about in public and most of the time not in private. I remember a popular majorette in high school (yeah, I'm an old guy) that got pregnant and when she started showing with about 2 months to go before graduation some of the "nice" people were repeating a rumor that she had a "tumor" and was going to die soon. Of course, that was a way of brushing off the discussion back then and pretty much stopped further discussion about it. But some of us kind of snickered but still we kept our opinions to ourselves and it was only talked about among close friends. Another girl actually killed herself after she got pregnant and she found out that people were talking about it behind her back. That was sad because she was a very likable girl and had lots of friends both male and female.

Looking back there were a lot of good things back then but also a lot of ridiculous taboos and unfair judgments about some people and their rumored sex lives.

I was raised in Miami and back in the those days it was part of the Bible Belt. Going to church on Sunday was something everyone who was someone did. It was often said when someone was mowing their grass on Sundays, "Tsk? Must be Catholics." Now I have to laugh at some of the things that "didn't" go on, yet still realizing that many folks were marginalized back then by those mores.



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No show in the fifties would allude to it, doesn't mean people didn't do it. Even other animals do too, go on YouTube.

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I didn't search youtube but better than that I witnessed it as a kid, Chimps in a cage in a zoo. I thought it was pretty strange, I figured the humans taught them.

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I don't think you get the point lol. Of course masturbation was around then. So was sex, obviously. The mom even asked what sex was to the daughter. The point is that the TV SHOW characters of Pleasantville don't know about these things. Not real life in the 1950s. The TV show was very innocent and family oriented. So that's how life was for them. Again, not real life. The TV show characters.

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No, it seems people in 1950s family sitcoms knew nothing about it. Which is - surprise! - entirely accurate!

You knew Pleasantville was representative of a TV series, yes? Or did you think people in the 1950s had pancakes AND hamsteak AND eggs AND bacon for breakfast?

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Well as kids today don't know how to peel a banana or know where there meat comes from it's not a surprise they would see this and things it's a documentary.

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