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Liberals' answer for Back to the Future


'Nuff said.



"A voice from behind me reminds me. Spread out your wings you are an angel."

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Most of the community structure and society beliefs when Pleasentille was in it's "utopia" state before it was all changed are conservative type beliefs, but yes, I wish things were still like that too.

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Things were never like this!! The movie was depicting an idealized TV reality version of this time period. The colorized world is pretty much just the real world.
A lot of baby boomers think of this as a perfect golden era the way TV depicted it simply because they were children at the time. I think of the 80s this way, though not too many people are rushing to romanticize that decade as much.

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I romanticize the 80s...wholeheartedly. Especially when I see the youth culture of today. (or the adult culture for that matter)

In other words, the 80s WERE romantic, compared to anything the world today has to offer. Now tell me I'm delusional.


Note: I do get your point in relation to the film. In fact, it's spelled out in the film:

"Roy Campbell's got a blue front door!"

"It's always been blue."


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The 80's were the last romantic period. The 90's were not distinguished in any way.
Nor have the 2000's, grunge and rock are all the same by talentless noobs who mission is to bore people. Music just sucks now, rap is just a ripoff of other peoples music with mono-tone rhyming lines of Ebonics overlayed on top of stolen music.

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Agree 100% with space station. The 80s were a lot better than the 90s. Especially the music. Grunge was so damn depressing. The 80s were just a better time.

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No offense, but the 90's sucked compared to even the 2000s.


The plural of mouse is mice. The plural of goose is geese. Why is the plural of moose not meese?

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Correct. I was mistaken in that I was also replying to someone on another thing regarding music in the different decades and I inadvertently smushed the two things together. Yes to all those things you said. Life was definitely better in the 90s compared to the 2000s. Just not with music....LOL.



The plural of mouse is mice. The plural of goose is geese. Why is the plural of moose not meese?

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The 90s sucked in your opinion while many many people hold that era highly. Doubt you know much about it anyway.

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Doubt you know much about it anyway.


What a truly idiotic thing to say.



If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. - George W. Bush

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What you posted was idiotic. I simply called you out on it as you backed your ridiculous claim up with nothing just like you failed to back this post up here with anything logical.

You may not like it but it's pretty clear that you know nothing about the 90s. Anyway I'm ending it there as this is the Pleasantville board and not 1990s.

Love the movie btw. Adios.

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Yes, I was born three years ago and know absolutely nothing about the nineties. How perceptive and incredibly intelligent of you.


If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. - George W. Bush

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more non-dimensional than delusional, I for instance could say the same thing about pre 1964 eg: pre color tv broadcast being common

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Exactly right -- the boomers consider the 1950s the "golden age" because of the fact that they were children at that time, and their images of it are largely post facto idealizations created by television and pop culture (there was a huge amount of fifties nostalgia in the 1970s, when many boomers were having their own children, and I think this has a lot to do with their rapturous tales of that era).

Of course the reality of that time period was nothing like the image projected in the typical sitcoms like Leave it to Beaver for the majority of families in the country. And for any person outside of the white bourgeois or upper-class family there were many difficult realities. African-Americans (and other minoritiess) faced overt racism, the McCarthy hearings and Hollywood blacklisting dominated politics, and the constant paranoia about communism and nuclear war made for a nightmarish era in the minds of many who lived through it. I am a child of the 1980s so I can't really understand the 1950s nostalgia or the posters waxing rhapsodic about the situation in Pleasantville before the change takes place. The atmosphere strikes me as smothering, restrictive, highly superficial and detached from reality, which makes it feel strange, and not pleasant (so to speak).

In fact there have been studies of the "golden age" phenomenon. It is very similar to the "golden age thinking" fallacy that is referred to in the film Midnight in Paris. The studies have shown that people almost always consider the "best times" to be the same as the years of their late childhoods and/or early teen years (sometimes college but usually it is the early teenage and late childhood years). So baby boomers idealize the fifties. As an 80s kid I still love the John Hughes movies and new wave music etc but I agree with you -- Gen Xers are far more cynical as a generation than Baby Boomers so I think you are right about the fact that the 80s nostalgia isn't anything like the 1950s nostalgia of the boomers.

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Zemeckis was parodying 1950s America in his film. So you know nothing of film interpretation. America, like our parents, were not perfectly whitebread back then. This is an inferior companion piece to BTTF.

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