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Seperates real 1950s from tv 1950s


If there's ever been a film that really brings out the topic of what 1950s America was really like verses the idealic 1950s from shows like Leave it to beaver and The honeymooners, this is the one. A lot of people who were not born yet in the 50s have often have a misconception that in the 50s people were exactly like in those tvshows. That people and their neighbors all got along so beautifully and were one big happy family, everyone smiled and were friendly to everyone whether it was on the street, in a store, at work, at home, everywhere. That everyone was very moral. That everyone saved sex until marriage. That physical fighting and violence was practically unheard of.

In reality in the 1950s, all that I mentioned above was a little closer to 50s life than to 21st century life, but not that close. In the real 50s, not everyone got along, not everyone saved sex til marriage, there was hatered, and there was violence. One thing, a big thing, was actually much worse than today. Racism. Especially in the deep south. The segregated buses, bars and resteraunts, schools, bathrooms, and water fountains. So the deep South of the 50s was extremely different than the sitcoms. The rest of America was not quite as bad but antisemitism and hate was still there, and Leave it to beaver was still a fantasy world. One great film that much more accurately portrays the real 50s is "School ties" with Brendan Frazier dealing with bigotry at his school for being jewish. "Stand by me" also shows some real behaviors of the 50s, such as the Kiether Sutherland character and his friends mashing mailboxes for fun and bullying the smaller kids, not to mention the issue of a dead body in the woods. "Mississippi burning" shows a quite realistic portrayal of racism in the 50s deep south.

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While there was racism in the 50's, it still was a iconic era in American history and a great time. It was the post WWII high with the economy booming and national pride high. Optimism was never higher and things like the start of the space race was fascinating. The plusses outweighed the negatives.

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You're actually probably right. I was born in the 1970s so all I know about the 1950s is what I've read in books, on the internet, seen in movies and TV, and from listening to other people's opinions, some of them from people also born after the 50s. The truth is, I'm not sure exactly what to think of the 50s, or 30s and 40s for that matter. There have been lots of times I've actually thought it was much better back then, a time when people could leave their doors unlocked, let their kids play in the street without the fear of some crazy person being around, you didnt have to fear your house being burgled, if you accidentally left your wallet at a resteraunt or at the store, it would actaully be returned to you(with the same amount of money intact) instead of some dishonest person claiming it and you never seeing it again. Crime and violence in general was a lot lower. People could trust each other, they helped each other, and treated each other with genuine kindness and respect, not the insincere niceness you often get from someone today who's just using you or trying to get something in return. And there was, as sflowers posted, the booming economy, pride, and optimism. I know this all sounds very different from my first post, but first of all, I wrote that first post after talking to someone who was telling me a lot of those things I then wrote, because I was actually telling them how much better I thought it must have been back then, and they were telling me how wrong I was, etc. And it was right after we both watched "Pleasantville". Secondly, I cannot be sure what it was really like before the 1970s when I was born. My honest opinion is, I think what I wrote this time is more the truth, and I've written other posts that mirror this one, not the first. But I still know there was racism. I'm saying it was better then, not perfect then.

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I take it your black/american.. When are you people ever going to get over it.. Move on and stop dwelling on the past

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