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Any thoughts on Don Rafael Monterro(the main villian)?


Any thoughts on Don Rafael Monterro(the primary villain)?

Thanks in advance

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I found he was unusually three-dimensional for a villain in this sort of film. It's made clear twice that he isn't simply an evil man like Captain Love, during the prologue he makes sure no children will have to witness his actions, and when he and Love are discussing how they should cover their tracks he questions if Love really wants to kill all the workers when they blow up the mine.

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Bump.


"Fluoride doesn't prevent tooth decay...IT DOES RENDER A PERSON DETECTABLE BY SPY SATELITE!"
-The Question

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i think he's evil but complicated evil, he stole elena but in retrospect he has time to refect of his action and what he's done. then zorro comes back and so does his old rage as he knows his time is up and has to protect himself even at the expense of elena



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Bump.

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Fuck your bumps, yank boy.

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Bump.

"Fluoride doesn't prevent tooth decay. It does render teeth detectable by spy satellite." -JL

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Don Raphael is a surprisingly well thought out villian.

There was a comment M Night Shyamalan made about a character in Hitchcock's 'Strangers on a Train' that fits well here. The character may be evil, insane or corrupt, but they have their own sense of morals.

Don Raphael, while fairly immoral regarding what he considered to be strictly business and self-preservation, did have empathy and heart.

For example: requesting that children be removed from a public, random execution. Showing trepidation towards killing hundreds of innocent laborers.

To bring up the subject of Elena, he genuinely considers her to be his daughter and cares for her as such, including acting as any normal father would when confronted with horny suitors. In his mind, the only thing that stood in the way of him being her biological father was the fact that Esperanza chose Diego de la Vega over him.

Ordering a dog to sit when in the vicinity of a twihard will have hilarious results.

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He mirrors the modern day politician. For that he is a great one.

"I'm your huckleberry."-Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday in Tombstone

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Monterro never deleted any Emails.



Just saying.

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Stuart Wilson played the part well. And I really believe the role was created with Alan Rickman in mind;Wilson vaguely resembles him.

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I am so glad to have found this topic. Yes! Don Rafael is a nuanced, complex and outstanding antagonist, who helps to MAKE this movie. He and Hopkins’ Zorro were made for each other. Their shared passion for Esperanza . . . ! Rafael PLUNGES his sword into the very heart of the oaf who accidentally murdered her. Not a second thought. “You killed the love of my life?! You asshole! Die!” Evil so often lacks passion. Rafael has passion. He believes in his direction in life.

Absent a great antagonist, a story has nothing. Goldfinger. The Bible. The first three Star Wars films. Paradise Lost. That’s off the top of my head. Compare Don Rafael to any contemporary comic book movie antagonist and tell me that he is not more interesting, engaging and effective than any of them. He’s an actual flawed human being, and not a stick figure.

Yes! Rickman would have RULED this role. “Of all sad words of tongue and pen/The saddest are these: ‘It might have been.’” - John Greenleaf Whittier

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Great bad guy. Very memorable and interesting

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Most interesting thing about him is the strangely affectionate relationship he forges with Elena. It makes him more human and relatable as a character, and that makes him more compelling as a bad-guy (especially because the root of that relationship is so deeply heinous that it allows him to simultaneously be sympathetic and reprehensible!)

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