How did this guy survive for all those years without food or fresh water. also why didn't he care that he was going to die was he so afraid of land or so attached to that ship that he'd rather die than leave. overall i think it was a great movie but the ending when it blows up ruined the entire film.
shareI don't quite understand your problem. There never were any "years without food or fresh water" he had to survive. ;) The ship was taken out of active use and decided to be "eliminated" (sorry, I'm not a native english speaker, so I can't recall a proper word at the moment) right then. So, if we had to imagine how he found his food then... he saw it coming - heard about rumours of it? - and collected some food and water for himself while there still was some.
Oh and, about this part:
"also why didn't he care that he was going to die was he so afraid of land or so attached to that ship that he'd rather die than leave"
If you didn't understand this then you better watch the whole movie again. Because if you didn't understand this you didn't understand the movie at all. (no offence - but this is the cold hard truth) But most importantly watch the last scene again, 1900 gives out the reason right there. Notice the part where he compares piano keyboard and outside life.
Also, quoting a line from an article about the movie.
"It’s also a metaphor for the human condition, that is, just as the central character 1900 lives his entire life within the limitations of the ship on which he was born and yet creates a life for himself which far exceeds those limitations, all of us who travel within the limitations of our existence have the potential to create lives which transcend our apparent and circumstantial limitations."
All in all, it's a really good movie. The first time one will get amazed by it's simplicity, music and plot (mainly fancy clothes and such though) (last two depend from person to person probably though), it's humane story-telling and such. Second time one will really see the character of 1900, and I mean really see behind the words of him. My third time is yet to come, so I cannot yet comment on that. ;-) But generally, if you've read all I've written here, watch the movie again and I believe you will understand the ending and the *why* a lot better. :)
Well honestly based on the condition of the ship as Max searches for 1900 I'd say that it was laid up for at least a year and probably much longer than that. There's not a doubt in my mind that if you were trying to apply "reality" to this situation 1900 would have spent a very long time aboard the ship alone with no source of food or fresh water (aside from possibly rain). Of course you're not supposed to dwell on this detail (as you correctly pointed out) because it's not important.
The ending, with the ship being blown apart and sunk was another one of those moments that made little sense if you throw reality into the mix. Ships like that weren't just hauled out and blown up so the owners could be rid of them. That liner would have been sold and then scrapped by ship breakers and all of that steel would have been recycled. Literally 1900 would have slowly had his hiding places taken from him until he was dragged kicking a screaming from the the remains of the ship.
If you do this however it doesn't work. Pick it apart and refuse to suspend your disbelief and the movie won't work. You won't see what the films trying to tell you and you'll walk away crying about how unrealistic it was. You do yourself and the movie a disservice. People who insist on realism should just go ahead and watch the news and documentaries exclusively. They'd be happier with how they spent their time.
Again, it's not important though.
I thought the ending was perfect. I think that if he would of gotten of the ship then it would of been like alot of other predictable movies. i think they did a good job!!!
You Are More Than You Think You Are
I thought it was a beautiful and sad ending…
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"Masquerade! Grinning yellows, spinning reds! Masquerade! Take your fill, let the spectacle astound you!"
~ Andrew Lloyd Webber’s THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA (2004)
There could have been no other ending. If I watched the film with literal eyes it would be quite ludicrous. If I don't, then it's one of the most brilliant and thought provoking things I've ever seen.
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Leaving the ship would be the typical Hollywood happy ending. It wouldn't have made sense to the film.
shareSaw it on BBC2 last night but fell asleep and misssed the last 15 mins or so (a mixture of me working all day and the film running out of steam) - so I get that the boat was blown up - so what was 1900 blown up along with it? was there any further mention of the girl he fell in love with? What happened to the trumpet player?
shareDirect reply to this: the girl wasn't really mentioned anymore. Max had just suggested to 1900 to go into the world and get married.
Yes, the ship was blown in the end, in fact the only scene I didn't really like. It would have been enough to indicate or mention that it happened, but to show the (computerized and very badly realized) explosion for real was a mistake in my opinion, independently how realistic that would have been.
Anyway, Max later returns the phonograph to the shop where the shopkeeper gives him the trumped Max played in the beginning, with the words: "Don't bother about the money; a good story is way more worth than an old trumpet!" - or something like this.
Quite a moving ending. I didn't actually cry, but it would have been worth it, and as funny as it sounds, I was even a bit dissappointed that I didn't.
Have just seen this film for the first time......
It was very well acted,quite moving, amusing and entertaining and well shot
(with the sorry explosion scene excepted)
HOWEVER, I thought it was a fictional film. Surely not everything in a fictional
film has to make sense all the time. It seems to me that there are far too many people in this world who can't just be entertained, but have to look for hidden meanings and symbolism in everything.
Perhaps meanings, if there are any, are hidden for a good reason and should stay that way.
The film is called "The LEGEND of..." that should have been your first clue not to expect anything naturalistic. It's a fairy tale. Do you apply the laws of reality to "Rapunzel" too?
Oh, and for the person who said the reason for not leaving the ship was lame because everyone else is faced with infinite possibilities too: everyone else didn't spend the first 30 years of their life limited to the inside of a boat, so there's no sense in comparing.
Maybe I'll live so long that I'll forget her. Maybe I'll die. Tryin'.
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You should really think before you speak. He clearly hadn't been there 'all those years' because the ship had just been taken out of service. You would hardly leave a ship in the middle of the sea 'all those years' anyways would you?
You have been bluffed badly, man. Why don't you delete the thread.
thats quite a bit of corrosion for a ship just taken out of service
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well, the ending was the key to the whole story.
the author was trying to tell us how the world is infinite and how he fears it.
this movie/story is not just what u hear and see in the tv, u have to think upon it.
read dante, leopardi, pirandello etc.. they all write strange stories but when u try to think upon it they say alot!
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Some people can't settle down and spend their life wandering all the time, never finding a place to rest. Modern society tells us that this is a good thing to do, to change jobs as often as possible, not to be bound to home or city, to move whenever required (and, consequently, it leads to changing families as well, so the number of divorces grows in societies that accept this life philosophy).
The older, more traditional societies still keep the concept of being faithful to home, job, family. And not just seldom this is stronger than life. There are so many people who died soon after retiring, because they felt useless and their reason for life has vanished. Also, many widows and widowers die soon (in just few months) after death of their spouse. And a significant percentage of people who are sent to nursing homes die within few weeks, because most of (or whole) their lives they have spent in one home - either where they have been born, or where they moved after wedding.
Tornatore is Italian director. Italians still keep their collectiveness, tradition, they put families on the top of their values and have strong feelings for their hometowns (there are not many nations making that many movies devoted to their towns, or at least having the towns or villages as a firm frame for the plot, as Italians do). Also, this is a "Legend of 1900", and not a "Legend of 2000." - this man had different values, pride and devotion that are not very common in world we live in.
I agree that he had been alone on the ship for a long, long time before they blew it up. I didn't like the ending either - I would think SOMEONE could have found another ship for him to live on.
shareI've said it before, and I'm saying it again - if you think that it was simply about "having a ship rather than land to live on", then you didn't understand the movie.
sharePersonally I believe that this wonderful film was an allegory of life on the planet Earth. Some of us stay in the same city we grew up in; some travel around the world and everything in between. That may be a stretch, but it works for me. We do the best we can with what we have, make a life for ourselves, attain skills, etc., but in the end we all die.
I think they should not have shown the explosion, but just the sound.
The ending would have been better if:
A: 1900 Left the ship and gave the recored to the girl and titled it "The Sound of the Ocean." That Maybe a bit too cliche
B: Max Tooney gives the recored to the girl and its titled "The Sound of the Ocean." And he either leaves it at that, or says "This was his secret", or tells her the story.
"Tickets Please..."
I think the crappy ending is appropiate for this piece of junk. The movie didn't deserve a better ending.
shareI don't know what you guys are talking about. I just watched the movie and cried like a baby at the end!
Tim Roth is a great actor, and deserved an award for this!
-Amanda
"She will remember your heart when men are fairy tales in storybooks written by rabbits"
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I watched this movie on IFC (Independent Film Channel) for two hours
only to see what I consider a very lame, stupid ending! And earlier
in the scene when he's going down the ladder to leave the ship to
visit New York City and then he has a change of heart and doesn't
ever leave, how contrived and unrealistic! Up until that point of
the story he'd spent his entire life aboard the ship only to wuss
out and decide to stay on board. That was when I nearly gave up
on this film, I like Tim Roth's acting though the script could've
been more believable and the ending much more satisfying. I would
not recommend this film to anyone period. And why he wanted to die
on board was also too contrived and unbelievable as well. He
should have realized that there was an entire world to see far
beyond that ship! Just my opinion.
Lorenzo In Sunny & Chilly New Mexico
I'm James "Sunny" Crockett!
"He should have realized that there was an entire world to see far
beyond that ship!"
Like some before in this thread, you also did not 'get it'. Watch the movie again.
From what I understand, the ship is the only life he knows, hence they reason why he doesn't leave. Plus being scorned by love only convinced him not to venture away from the ship. So to me, the ending makes complete sense. With teh demolition of the ship, he was losing everything...it was literally the end of his life.
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