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Does anybody else pretend this was the last one?

posted 9 years ago by jt2002b
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I always grew up on Halloween movies as a kid, I'm still obsessed with 1 and 2. (Ignoring the terrible Part 3) 4 and 5 were decent, 6 was pretty bad but H20 was a pretty solid movie. It's not anywhere as good as the originals, but it did a good job bringing back Laurie Strode's character and the nurse's character. It was awesome to see how even to that day Laurie was still traumatized and living in fear having constant nightmares about Michael finding her and John. I think it was awesome how she finally decided it was time to stop running and confront Michael or she would never move on. Not only to protect herself but she also needed to worry about John now... The ending where she goes after him and ends up decapitating him despite their "moment" was so satisfying. I also love how she took those deep, meditating breaths right after it happened and basically said to herself "It's finally over." That was one of the best send-off scenes ever. As a Halloween fan I loved the characters triumph over evil and I was completely satisfied and okay with the idea of not having anymore sequels.

Resurrection ruined all this in a cheap attempt to cash in one last time. It completely pissed all over H20. As if our suspension of disbelief wasn't already trying enough, the events of Michael switching places with the paramedic were completely unbelievable... As a Halloween fan I can say that I was appalled when I watched it and I even went back and re watched the ending to H20. I'm such a Halloween fan that I could even recognize in H20's ending Michael acts the way he does in the other movies. The slouching in the road, the staring at her despite the fact that he was being ran over, etc. And let's face it, no ordinary human could've survived being pinned to the tree like Michael did. The paramedic thing was complete BS I don't consider Resurrection canon at all. To me this movie was the serie's ending.

[–] dave626 9 years ago

I guess you never saw the movie Signs where Mel Gibson's wife lived long enough after being pinned between cars for Gibson to get there and have a final conversation with her before she died. If that movie could pull it off, Halloween can too.

Here's my beef with H20. Lousy Michael with crappy masks, including the CGI one. The whole Scream thing shoved down our throats from the movie clip, the Belreami score, the feel of the film. The lousy casting of teens. Hartnett was okay, but the rest were just plain bad. Om;y in 2 did they burn Michael to "kill" him, but no one had a problem with him being in 4, since like most people, without him in 3, it tanked. They hated that. Although is a good stand alone film in it's own right. So what does H20 do? The one thing no other Halloween ever did. Definitively kill Michael. Even the Akkads knew that was a mistake.

And why have a sequel clause with JLC if they were going to kill him?

As bad as Resurrection was in certain areas, it had a better Michael, better mask, better score that wasn't Scream related, it was back in Haddonfield, not California, had the Myers house too.

Downsides were casting and everything in the house being fake. H20 was a cash grab for the anniversary that relied too much on Scream and not it's own previous success, like the original. So I'm glad that wasn't the end. It sucked.

"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

[–] onthemarktexas 8 years ago

I'm with you ... H20 is the end of the original series as far as I'm concerned. More to the point, H4, H5, H6, and H8 simply do not compute in my mind.

[–] Doom 8 years ago

There's nothing to pretend about.

As far as Laurie's story goes, H20 was the last one.

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[–] highschoolkiller 8 years ago

to me this is the last one. But i agree with the other poster about that aweful scream score, and i don't look like michael's look.

I hated Jaws, it had too much shark, and dont get me started about King Kong, waaay too much gorilla

[–] ReturnOfWhiskey 8 years ago

You can't be serious. This movie was TERRIBLE. This series ended with H2. Period.

H3 was excellent as a stand alone horror flick as it had nothing to do with 1 or 2, which is how Carpenter & Hill intended it.

Everything after I don't consider part of the original storyline. 4 was good mainly due to the great atmosphere; 5 was decent as direct continuation of 4. H20, 6, and 7 were absolute garbage. GARBAGE.

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[–] dave626 8 years ago

All the Halloween films had some good parts, whether it was the story, cast, location, score, etc. There was always something that made it worth my while. Granted they decreased in quality, but again, parts were good, parts were bad. But what do you expect with different writers, directors and the baggage it already had?

"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

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[–] MaximRecoil (4619) 6 years ago

"H3 was excellent as a stand alone horror flick"

No, it wasn't.

"as it had nothing to do with 1 or 2"

That's one of its two problems; the other being that it wasn't a good movie.

"which is how Carpenter & Hill intended it."

Obviously. It is not as if anyone thinks they did that by accident. It was just a stupid idea. It's like if Rocky III had been about a high school kid from New Jersey who moves to California and meets an Okinawan maintenance man who trains him for a karate tournament.

Anthologies are best left to books and TV series. I can't think of a successful anthology movies series (at least not one with a single feature-length story per entry), especially after the second entry was a standard sequel to the first entry. In fact, I don't think anyone has even attempted something so stupid, before or since Halloween III.

[–] Minus_The_Beer 8 years ago

I don't really "pretend" anything, but as far as I'm concerned, they should have left it at this one. Not a perfect film, but it closed the door in a respectable manner. Resurrection and Rob's films did little to add to the mythology and only further damaged the franchise.

Anyone here mentions Hotel California dies before the first line clears his lips.

[–] BoxOfficePoison 8 years ago

Yes. In my house this is the third and last Halloween! (Although Parts 4 & 5 were shot in my old neighborhood, which I have to admit is kind of cool.)

"You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you."
"You seem a decent fellow. I hate to die."

[–] jt2002b 8 years ago

That's awesome! Where do you live?

[–] dave626 8 years ago

4 and 5 were filmed in Salt Lake City, Utah. If you Google filming locations, someone was kind enough to give you street addresses for all of the locations, including the Myers, Carruthers and Meeker houses.

"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

[–] Strannger (2007) 8 years ago

For me it was over. Laurie defeated her demons and was left to start her life a new.

[–] DracTarashV2 (4493) 7 years ago

As much of a letdown as seeing Laurie end up in a mental institution and getting killed off was, I admit that opening in Resurrection was almost great. Sure, the explanation given for Michael’s survival in H20 was a bit asinine (or arguably believable?), though if the rest of Resurrection hadn’t been such a mess (an entertaining one), I could then MAYBE accept that movie as the true end for the franchise.

But yes, seeing how there’s always been people who’ve had it in their minds that H20 itself wasn’t the end for Halloween (instead it was the second or even the original film!) pretending that H20 was a proper end to the series is completely fine. And much to my amusement, now that the new Halloween (2018) is set to forget every movie in the series minus the original, I say fans can accept any Halloween movie as the last one. Me? I could go with either the original or II. Having said all that, H20 could’ve been improved in some areas but I do think it was a (then) solid finale to the series. I like it.

[–] W10 (5) 7 years ago

I do

[–] bigbadwolf666 (4707) 6 years ago

Me too.

[–] PeppermintHippo (369) 7 years ago

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