Question for the brits.
Does Johnny Depp's accent sound real or fake to you guys. I cannot tell at all. But I am from America
shareDoes Johnny Depp's accent sound real or fake to you guys. I cannot tell at all. But I am from America
shareIt would all depend on what part of Britain his accent was trying to be. I didnt think it was terrible. it definately wasn't dick van dyke.
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I think he did a good job a london accent back then would have been hard to figure out as no one knows what it was like. Although I think in Mary Poppins Dick Van Dyke sound Australian lol just my opion....But yes he did a half decent accent :D xx
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sharePeople don't know what the London accent sounded like in the late Victorian period?
Don't be silly. By 1888 London accents had already been recorded and carried on to be recorded until the last living person of 1888 had died (which was surprisingly interesting).
Depp does a pretty decent East London accent, although that accent of the working class has transformed into something else over the last 30 years.
I think he did a great job of a 19th century London accent
shareHis accent sounded much more authentic than Heather Graham's, which I felt had very noticable American twangs at times.
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What an accent from the 1880s would sound like is not too far beyond imagination. Practical audio-recording had been invented by 1880 and it was possible to record your own voice, using a phonograph and a wax cylinder. So there would have been recordings of voices from that period. Not GREAT recordings, but if you listened to enough, I reckon you could mould your voice/accent on those.
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quite a good accent I thought
shareThere's no reason whatsoever for him to have had a London accent. Abberline was from Dorset, and didn't leave until around the age of twenty.
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I'm going to defend Dick van Dyke. He's not trying to do an accurate London accent. Mary Poppins is a fantasy about a fantasy version of London. Van Dyke is playing the King of the Chimney Sweeps. His accent is farcical just like the whole film.
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I'm going to defend Dick van Dyke. He's not trying to do an accurate London accent. Mary Poppins is a fantasy about a fantasy version of London. Van Dyke is playing the King of the Chimney Sweeps. His accent is farcical just like the whole film.
It was terrible but Heather Graeme's was worse, absolutely shocking!! I love Johnny Depp and Heather Graeme but their are plenty of amazing british actors that could have played the parts just as well...the story was strong and didn't need 'big star' names to carry it!
shareI have to agree it wasn't very good but it was better than most
shareIt was a straight Michael Caine impression, for the most part, and not a bad one.
As far as its appropriateness, Caine was lauded for his performance as Inspector Abberline in the 1988 Jack the Ripper TV movie, so why not?
It was a straight Michael Caine impression, for the most part, and not a bad one.
As far as its appropriateness, Caine was lauded for his performance as Inspector Abberline in the 1988 Jack the Ripper TV movie, so why not?
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Yep--Johnny was doing a pretty good Michael Caine.
Most American actors have a hard time pulling off a convincing Brit accent--well, movie stars do anyway. Listen to Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder in the Dracula flick or Kevin Costner in Robin Hood to hear how it's not done. Maybe the ones that can do it aren't the A listers that get all the big parts.
Going the other way, I didn't know Rachel Griffiths was an Aussie (first saw her in 6 Feet Under on HBO as Brenda) until I saw some interview footage--PERFECT.
I'm still trying to figure out what Francis Ford Coppola was thinking when he cast Reeves. Winona came with the script, and was attached before Coppola, so I can't blame him for that one...but Reeves? haha How can you stick Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder, dodgy accents and all, in between Gary Oldman and Tony Hopkins? It's mindboggling!
I also can't figure out why Costner was cast in...well, most things, really. haha
Not sure if the last line re-Costner is a signature or not but it made me laugh.
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I also can't figure out why Costner was cast in...well, most things, really. haha
Oddly enough Johnny Depp sounds like George Lamb (a British presenter, you can probably find some vids on youtube). I'm an American so I don't know the specifics of East End accents but it's sounds like Lamb's accent is put on mockney (like rich kids wanting to "fit in"). I would then guess Depp does a bang on accent.
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Its not great but passable. A decent film. Now if you wanna an American actor who does a great English cockney accent then watch Christopher Guest and Michael Mckean in This is Spinal Tap. Totally convincing to the point where when I first saw the film I thought they were real cockneys!
shareWell, it was english and it was a London accent, not quite as cockney as I was expecting it to be for the Whitechapel area, but it was passable.
shareI'm not a Brit, so I can't give an opinion on whether the accents were authentic, but one thing I'll say for both Depp and Graham is that, even if their accents missed on a few occasions (Heather Graham much more so than Depp), they did both at least sound like real people talking all the time, which counts for a lot as far as I'm concerned, and makes it easier to just settle into the film.
Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder in Dracula have been mentioned in this thread; I think what made their performances so bad in that flick was that it was painfully obvious at every single moment that they were trying very hard to do "un ECK-sent", and were putting more attention and effort into that than into playing their roles. For me, that's when an accent - good or bad - really damages a performance. I'd far prefer a not-quite-successful accent delivered naturalistically, than feel like we're listening to a painfully self-conscious dialect exercise.
You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
If I didn't know who Johnny Depp was, and I saw this movie, I wouldn't think he was really a foreigner, so his accent was pretty good.
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His accent was really good. My only criticism is that it sounded like modern cockney not Victorian, but I suppose that would be asking a lot for a foreigner to do.
shareI thought he and Heather Graham were both excellent, which surprised me. He's always top notch but I'd never thought of her as a good actress before.
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It was a hell of a lot better than Heather Grahams. My god her accent was awful. Why can they not just get a British actress to play the lead, there are plenty of them!
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I am watching the film now and also saw the film in the cinema, I think his accent was poor and I am from east london and kind of ironic where the film is set Born in whitechapal, In the royal London lol. But his accent is not good but definitely not the worst..
Some words his pronouncing like neither isn't the way a Englishman would say it... but he improved his English accent for the for the pirates of the Caribbean movies...
I just watched it last night for the first time since it came out probably. His accent wasn't horrific, but it wasn't good. It was noticibly forced, especially when he swore or got angry, lol. I laughed when he said something like 'I could stand here, like a nob'. This is a very british thing to say, and he sounded so strange saying it--as if he wasn't really sure how it should sound.
Heather Graeme was something else though, dear god!
It was better than Robbie Coltrane's
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