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Marvel seems HEAVILY into rebooting these days...


After rebooting the Hulk, Marvel movie franchises have dived heavily into the rebooting business what with Fantastic Four, Daredevil and Spiderman ALL scheduled for reboots.

Does this trend worry anyone?

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wouldn't say it worries me. it's a bad crutch studios are using however. I think at some point studios need to cut out the reboot bs. Make a movie, hope it's good and audiences like it. don't reboot within such a quick time frame.

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I dislike the trend as such, but in my humble opinion the reboot saved the Hulk franchise, and since superhero movies don't come much worse than the Fantastic Four movies, I welcome a reboot. With Spider-Man, however, I don't know what they're thinking - what they need there is a good script for Spider-Man 4, not a bloody remake of the first one.

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I agree with every point you said except for The Fantastic Four movies. I liked both movies though I haven't read the comics. They weren't my favorite superhero movie but they weren't bad like Hulk.

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Yeah, I'm worried about this franchise (Fantastic Four) it will be weird seeing new actors protraying these characters so soon. I will probably not go see the reboot for that reason, I will most likely miss Chiklis? (sorry) as the Thing. I loved the first film BTW but I did not like the second one so much but at least Rise was slightly better than Daredevil which could do with a reboot now that some years have past.

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I'm worried too. Instead I want to see She-Hulk!

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it's not marvel rebooting these films but the studios that own the rights to the characters. i belive that if they don't make a film within a certain amount of time then they lose the rights. i see reboots as an admission from the studios that the films are crap

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So far only Hulk and Punisher had reboots, and I don't think that rebooting The Fantastic Four would be such a great idea since its done quite well and perhaps they should continue with sequels and spin-offs (Silver Surfer being one of them).

I think both Daredevil, and Elektra could use a reboot and made more authenically to their mainstream likeness. Ghost Rider should continue as a series of Sequels.

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It's so irritating from an outside pov, which unfortunately is the pov that matters for what they're doing.

The Hulk re-boot saved it. Ghost Rider could do with a new take, cause that film sucked big time.

But I honestly don't think Fantastic Four needs a reboot, no more than Spiderman does. It's just too soon.

It's like buying a new puppy the day after your dog dies. Give us some time to mourn the loss of what could have been a great film (or, in my opinion, WAS a great film) and then slowly let us get used to the idea of a new one.

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The Hulk was not rebooted. Continued with different actors. Ghost Rider was spot on. Read the comics. Spider-Man needs a reboot badly. Maguire is fine but too old. Dunst is plain and not good looking enough and has not got those heavily featured green eyes. The first and third films were handled badly and second film was excellent. One film from a franchise of three cannot sustain it

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It was actually a reboot. It has a different back story and no references to the 2003 film.

You thought Ghost Rider was spot on, I didn't.

I agree now that Spiderman would probably be better off with a reboot, but what I meant was that it seems a bit soon. I don't care about Dunst not having "heavily featured green eyes", but it did annoy me that in the first film she couldn't leave the house without needing to be rescued. They way overdone the damsel in distress thing.

True that, though.

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Dunst was in no way at all like the comic/cartoon character either.......

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P.s Defoe was a wimp of an Osbourne and his ridiculous Power Rangers suit did not help.....

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The Hulk re-boot saved it. Ghost Rider could do with a new take, cause that film sucked big time.

But I honestly don't think Fantastic Four needs a reboot, no more than Spiderman does. It's just too soon.


LMAO you ARE joking...riiiiight???

The Hulk (Eric Bana)
Gama-ray exposed doggies??? aka a green cujo?? LOL
The Hulk becoming 50-80 feet tall??
The hulk having his daddy turn into an absorbing-man?

Fantastic Four
Ben Grimm bald lookin like an old age mr.freeze
Sue Storm having to get nude before being able to use her power?
Reed Richards looks like a modern age Doogie Howser M.D.
and the Human Torch looks like the worlds biggest "flamer"
and when did alica masters pull a "Michael Jackson and turn from "White" to "Black" I must've been asleep during the years when that happened i comics.

then you got Doc Doom who doesn't where a mask any more but has some techo-organic babble jibberish mutate his face maybe that bull works in G.I.Joe with Destro....but not with Doc Doom

The first Spider-Man was great. The second was decent but the third was utter garbage. since when did Sandman kill Uncle Ben??????


The Hulk, Fantastic Four were the only ones needful of a reboot


Blade, Blade II, Blade III
Daredevil (long as you're watching the directors cut version)
Elektra
Ghost Rider
Incredible Hulk
Iron Man, Iron Man 2
Punisher (1989)
Punisher
Punisher: War Zone
X-Men, X2, X-Men: Last Stand, X-Men Orgins: Wolverine

What was wrong with any of these??? OK I'll give some people the Kingpin being black thing....but i think we can all understand that happened because well, frankly I can't remember the last time I saw a mountain sized white actor.

but come on!! Daredevil was a perfect movie about him aside from that 1 little change..... and if you all complain about that.....why not complain about Nick Fury being black?? He might be black in the "Ultimate Timeline" but the movie's being made with him?? AREN'T ABOUT THE ULTIMATE CHARACTER. These movies aren't called Ultimate Iron Man, Ultimate Hulk, Ultimate Thor, Ultimate Captain America, or even Ultimate Avengers! they don't even announce to the Audience the characters are being based on the Ultimate Marvel Timeline! I mean you people would have a bloody fit if "Blade" was turned into a white character, and don't tell me you wouldn't! What if Storm or Bishop or Black Panther were made white caracters and portrayed that way in a movie?? I'd be ripped!

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but come on!! Daredevil was a perfect movie about him aside from that 1 little change..... and if you all complain about that.....why not complain about Nick Fury being black?? He might be black in the "Ultimate Timeline" but the movie's being made with him?? AREN'T ABOUT THE ULTIMATE CHARACTER. These movies aren't called Ultimate Iron Man, Ultimate Hulk, Ultimate Thor, Ultimate Captain America, or even Ultimate Avengers! they don't even announce to the Audience the characters are being based on the Ultimate Marvel Timeline! I mean you people would have a bloody fit if "Blade" was turned into a white character, and don't tell me you wouldn't! What if Storm or Bishop or Black Panther were made white caracters and portrayed that way in a movie?? I'd be ripped!


Ive been saying that for years. Glad to see someone agrees with me about Daredevil.

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but come on!! Daredevil was a perfect movie about him aside from that 1 little change..... and if you all complain about that.....why not complain about Nick Fury being black?? He might be black in the "Ultimate Timeline" but the movie's being made with him?? AREN'T ABOUT THE ULTIMATE CHARACTER. These movies aren't called Ultimate Iron Man, Ultimate Hulk, Ultimate Thor, Ultimate Captain America, or even Ultimate Avengers! they don't even announce to the Audience the characters are being based on the Ultimate Marvel Timeline! I mean you people would have a bloody fit if "Blade" was turned into a white character, and don't tell me you wouldn't! What if Storm or Bishop or Black Panther were made white caracters and portrayed that way in a movie?? I'd be ripped!


Agreed.

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Every studio, every writer, every producer, likes to do a reboot every so often with their franchises. Most of the time, a reboot can be relied upon to make a bit of money because fans of the extant franchise as well as people who hated it will be curious to see if the new cast and crew can do it any better. It is the best of both worlds.

I do not believe in tooting my own horn, but I believe my IMDB user comment about Rise Of The Silver Surfer said it best about the extant Fantastic Four franchise. It literally is the X-Men dumbed down for four year olds. There is almost no exploration of the immense difficulties or conflicts the Four would experience as a result of having such specialised (read: limited) and visible super-abilities. Think about it for a second: if you could turn invisible at a will you had trouble controlling at first, how much hassle would you expect from the authorities at minimum?

It certainly does not help one bit when the extant films do not appear to aspire to anything other than mediocrity. Tim Story clearly has no passion for the material, and as much as I despise some other Christopher Nolan films, passion for the material is exactly what made his Batman films stand out from the pack. In fact, every good superhero film has at minimum had a director who had a distinct passion for the material under his direction.

Another minimum requirement of a good superhero film is that it tells a story for adults. Actions have to have consequences, hateful people have to do terrible things, heroes have to get angry and do equally terrible (if more justified) things, and above all else, the consequences have to be lasting. Rise Of The Silver Surfer was no better than the Narnia films when it comes to invoking the magic reset button. As a point of comparison, look at the real X-Men films, in which prominent political figures die in bizarre circumstances, and men originally sworn to defend the country torture their own children to the point where they may as well be dead.

It does not take a marketing genius to figure out why the Fantastic Four franchise did not succeed to Fox's expectations. Sometimes, trying to "include" everyone in your marketing backfires in a big way. This is one of those times. Fox wanted a better return on their investment, so they will test how the public responds to treating Fantastic Four fans like they are old enough to remember when there was a wide variety of owners in the media, and those owners occasionally made films solely for adults.

--mentalcritic
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