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Creepy cool dramtic scene


In the parking garage when Bartelby was ranting about God's favoritism to the humans and Loki says, "I've heard this rant before. You sound like the Morning Star. You sound like Lucifer, man!" That was a pretty powerful scene for a writer who specializes in dick and fart jokes.

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I think much of this script is Kevin Smith's best work- and that scene you mentioned was indeed very powerful.

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that was a really great scene, probably my favourite. really showed us who those two were.

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Personally, I found it the oddest part of the film. Bartleby, despite losing the plot, isn't really talking about a war on God, but just continuing to do what they were doing, despite any obstacles.

The scene also represents the part of the movie where the two angels seemingly switch roles for no discernible reason, with the Angel of Death suddenly not wanting to even step on an ant (after shooting up a boardroom earlier) and the 'Watcher' that has been talking him down from the beginning of creation up until like 10 minutes before, now wanting to kill anything he comes across. To me, nothing in the Bethany/Bartleby train scene justifies that sudden turn.

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Personally, I found it the oddest part of the film. Bartleby, despite losing the plot, isn't really talking about a war on God, but just continuing to do what they were doing, despite any obstacles.


No, Bartleby changed the plan. Not only was he pursuing this for a different incentive (and in the end you find out Bartleby learns he will un-make existence, and continues anyway), he also contemplates killing the Last Scion/Jay/Bob/Rufus/Muse.

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I think much of this script is Kevin Smith's best work- and that scene you mentioned was indeed very powerful.


Agreed. I think it is too.


In the parking garage when Bartelby was ranting about God's favoritism to the humans and Loki says, "I've heard this rant before. You sound like the Morning Star. You sound like Lucifer, man!" That was a pretty powerful scene for a writer who specializes in dick and fart jokes.

And yes, that scene really gave me chills too. 



"I'm the ultimate badass,you do NOT wanna f-ck wit me!"Hudson,Aliensξ‚ŸπŸ˜¬

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I also like the scene where The Metatron tells Bethany,

"That's what Jesus said. Yes, I had to tell him. And you can imagine how that hurt the Father - not to be able to tell the Son Himself because one word from His lips would destroy the boy's frail human form? So I was forced to deliver the news to a scared child who wanted nothing more than to play with other children. I had to tell this little boy that He was God's only Son, and that it meant a life of persecution and eventual crucifixion at the hands of the very people He came to enlighten and redeem. He begged me to take it back, as if I could. He begged me to make it all not true. And I'll let you in on something, Bethany, this is something I've never told anyone before... If I had the power, I would have."

How do the angels get to sleep when the Devil leaves his porch light on?

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Agreed, that's one of my favorites

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yep, gave me chills

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This movie made me laugh my head off, as Kevin Smith films do, but it also had a lot of cool concepts and characters. This IS Kevin Smith's Comic Book Movie IMHO.

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I loved this scene, Matt Damon was BRILLIANT. Gave me chills!!

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I loved this scene, Matt Damon was BRILLIANT. Gave me chills!!


Me too. Agreed, both of them were great in that scene. 

"I'm the ultimate badass,you do NOT wanna f-ck wit me!"Hudson,Aliensξ‚ŸπŸ˜¬

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This film is a one-off - love it to bits.

Matt Damon manages to be scary, cute and passive-aggressive, simultaneously.

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Not just well written, well acted too .

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The whole movie is a combination of dick jokes and philosophical debate about theology. It's pretty cool actually. Definitely better than Jay and Silent Bob strike Back. What a letdown.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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This is my absolute favorite scene. So passionate.

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Cool.

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