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Soldiers nursing on Sethe?


I turned my back and heard her retelling what happened 18 years ago.
I looked and saw the soldiers sucking her milk??!
ok, what was that for?
weirdness? or were they hungry?? im serious.
im confused.

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THAT was weird!! and disgusting.

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I just wonder how they actually filmed that shot... I mean it could have been with a fake body but I know that some directors would actually film the nursing as seen. The reason I am wondering is because you can't see her face when they are sucking away. You get her POV...

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It looked like a fake body for a few seconds,especially since her breasts didn't look so big and feminine almost. It have to be a fake body! Plus,I turned away because it was extremely hard to look at it. I mean just the look of it made so angry and sad at the same time. They were mocking, punishing, abusing, and humuliating her! It was tough for her and other woman of color!

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The book has a lot of breast imagery and a sign of nurturing and motherhood. The attack on Sethe is considered a form of rape and a way to deny her of her role as a mother.

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Yes, they took her milk so she wouldn't be abel to feed her children.

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Yeah, they knew she had children to feed and that she was protective of her milk, so they took it from her to torture her.

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Anyone who had a baby knows that if you express milk, more will come. In fact its good for milk production. Plus it would come out on its own if not expressed in time. Also it was common for white babies to nurse from black slaves so that the white woman could 'maintain' her figure.

I would say it was more that Sethe was physically violated by those overgrown white boys.

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The school teacher had told them to sexually assault her for some reason that's why the were nursing on her.
Odd I know.

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I think I know why that bastard schoolteacher had told them to do that horrible act to her. She said that she was looking for her husband, Halle, in there which is the loft. Then, she accidently ran into them and I guess schoolteacher knew that she was trying to escape and was punishing her for that reason. MFer! I'm glad he'd cried when he saw that Sethe did a horrible act of her own that left him disgusted!

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Yeah, that does give you some degree of satisfaction.

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You got it.

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School Teacher kept calling her an animal and you "milk" animals. Also it was a way to show her how powerless she was, even over her own body. I don't know that they even thought it could humiliate and hurt her the way it did and they certainly wouldn't have cared unless it was for even more sadistic pleasure.

If you haven't seen the interview that Oprah did about the movie and that scene in particular, you should try to find it and listen to her thoughts about it.

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That is definitely a hard scene to watch. I don't know how I can think nothing of watching other kinds of cinemactic violence, but scenes like that (and also in "The Hills Have Eyes") disturb me so much.

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lol! It was just a movie scene. It would be different if it actually happened. Have that school teacher's breasts ripped off!

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That scene shocked, horrified, disgusted, and saddened me all at once. She was so powerless and it was absolutely disturbing to watch.

Don't eva let nobody tell you you ain't strong enough

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It's a particularly violent and loathsome way to terrorize a woman, reducing her to the condition of an animal (a milk cow). There's a lot of animal imagery in the book and the movie -- the fact that the slaves were treated like animals and made to feel sub-human, partly as a way of demoralizing them and preventing rebellion. The outrage is compounded by all the food imagery in the book and novel - Sethe (and all the slaves) seldom get enough to eat, cherish and savor every bite. Women worry about their children getting enough nourishment to survive, let alone thrive. Of course literally Sethe will be able to make more milk -- a modern woman unable to nurse her child would express and discard the milk to make sure the milk kept flowing. But symbolically the young men are stealing the nourishment from the child. This is more appalling than the whipping Sethe gets when the young men find she's told on them. They are definitely not hungry. It is definitely a deliberate act of violation and humiliation.

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Was it just me or did they not have breasts in that scene? I looked like they were simulating "nursing" on a flat piece of black wood. When the baby Denver does it it's a real floppy boob that the baby picks up and sucks on. The flashback showed no breasts at all. That made it even weirder.

~~VO~~Lap Up All Of My Sugary Badness.

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She was on her back, maybe that's why they looked flatter.
It looked real enough for the desired impact though.

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