As a leftist I can say that Clinton and Reno are not really leftist or even liberals but more like, as you say New World Order fans. So is Dubya. But its really about people who want to have control and enforce conformaty.
I personally detest Vernon Howell, AKA David Koresh. But I do support his right to be a weirdo. If this guy wants to tell people he is Jesus Christ and people are dumb enough to beleive him than thats their problem.
Now regarding those kids who were allegedly molested, yea, something needed to be done. Maybe they could have arrested Koresh while he was out for one of his morning jogs. Maybe they could have surrounded the place and waited till he left. Like, he was not going anywhere was he?
But the ATF wanted to have a big showy raid! They wanted to be daddy (to quote Dr Evyl in Austin Powers).
I feel sad for the agents that died, but was it really necessary to stage a military style raid and burn the place to the ground?
And I for one NEVER bought the argument that it was the Davidians who set the fire. It was Reno and her gang executing a vendetta. Pure and simple.
"If this guy wants to tell people he is Jesus Christ and people are dumb enough to beleive him than thats their problem."
Before you come on here and give your 2 cents worth perhaps you should have a basic grasp on the subject at hand and also leave out Austin Powers quotes. Koresh never once said he was Jesus Christ. The American government and its media said this beacause they are liars .....and murderers!
"I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different."
I remember a recording in which he said that he was Jesus Christ. He went on about how he was the king of kings and gods of gods or something. It was the recording that negotiators played to the media.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.
Women can be anything they want in todays world. But Reno was a vicious and mean person who hated everyone. And I don't just use Waco as an example. Her entire history was one of leading paranoid witch hunts against innocent people. I think she would have been great during the McCarthy era.
Like Iraq. But on a microscopic level. More people will probably die in the next 24 hours in Iraq because of a "paranoid witch hunt against innocent people". And Koresh scares the bejesus out of me. He demanded 140 wives, and had sex with 14 year old girls. He instructed people to kill themselves for their "cause".(again, sounds like Iraq) But in either case, DOWN WITH DELUSIONAL RELIGIOUS FANATICS!!!
Clinton, Dubya, Reno... they are all the same to me.
I agree. I refer to Hillary Clinton as "the other Republican" in the upcoming 2008 apocolypse/election. Man I hope somebody steps up fast, if it's Jeb Bush vs Hillary Clinton, and Canada now being under conservative occupation, I guess I'll have to consider moving to Japan.
In all my previous lives I was either hanged or burned at the stake.
I'm glad other people are aware that these are all the same wolves, all in the same sheep's clothes. Yep, they're all the same and the ideological divide between the Democrats and the Republicans is as narrow as a hair.
I love all the Republican/Democrat bashing online. They are all on the same team. They take away all your liberty with one hand and get you to look at the monkey in the other. You would get more done politically by bashing the current bad guy in professional wrestling. If the democrats were so much better than republicans, why is government rolling along as usual with them in power? Where are these great changes? None of them are protecting your interests. They both are bought and sold. Quit buying into that BS.
Reno also said of the sanctions against Iraq which were estimated to be responsible for the deaths of 50,000 children said "It's collateral damage". Pretty nice, eh? What would be the response of the hysterical, reactionary people in power if that happened in America.