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"We never found anything on Jack"


Watching for the first time in some years and Bill Paxton's assistant guy says this towards the end ...but *when* did they have the chance to investigate this? Rose literally just told them the story and they've done a deep dive into his existence?

Also, was Fabrizio's accent dubbed over in post production or something? It sounds really terrible.

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Even in the 90s, they had the internet and a way to access it even at sea. They were in communications with their investors and other support people on shore so they had the time and opportunity. Rose was on the ship for a least two days telling the story, so they had time to check on Jack during the time Rose was napping (every hour?).

The accent is indeed terrible. I grew up in a Jewish - Italian neighborhood (the only black family in 10 square miles!!) and I know what an Italian accent sounds like. The actor in this was terrible. The accent wasn't Italian or anything else for that matter, it was just some sort of accent that wasn't an American English one.


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See, watching the film today, there was nothing to punctuate how long her story was taking. And assuming they were all there listening, when would Bodine have had time to try looking him up. It's clearer from the deleted scenes there were breaks, so makes more sense.

Some of the acting (bit parters mainly) seems really bad now.

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It's also possible if not likely that they had scans of every single document in existance relating to Titanic on their laptops. Given the titanic scope of the salvage, the dive equipment, the ridiculous rental cost of the Russian research vessel, I would imagine the expedition had a huge concentration of information on the Titanic right on board. Every passenger, every officer, perhaps every crewman for that matter - and maybe even any information on relatives of anyone on board. Cargo manifests, cabin assignments.. They probably even had the blueprints of the ship on the computer.

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Yeah, and Jack's ticket was from that Slavic guy, so Jack's name wouldn't have been associated with it.

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"They probably even had the blueprints of the ship on the computer."
Yeah, of course they did. How else could Bodine have done his cool sinking simulation animation?

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I think this is more in reference to Jack being on the Titanic. They could have easily looked at the passenger manifest while she was talking and see that his name didn’t appear anywhere.

I don’t think it was supposed to imply that they did a deep dive into his existence and found nothing. This would cause more problems with the story if they did. Because it would give reason for the crew to doubt old Roses story, even though they are supposed to believe her by point, and be emotionally impacted by her story.

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I always took it as it as meaning that they simply weren't aware of this person's existence and had never seen records of him being on the ship. That's it. I don't think it's meant to imply that they went off camera and began doing an extensive investigation to no avail. You have to keep in mind, this is a group of people who spend a lot of time studying the Titanic and its passengers. So I think this was them more or less just being like, "Wow, after all our years reading about this event, we never came across any information about this guy who was part of a gunfight on the ship, who was kept prisoner at one point while it was sinking, who had such an interesting story in the middle of this historic event."

I believe it's just emphasizing how much time washes away the past. Someone such as Jack, while meaning so much to someone's life, being part of such a major occurrence, being so talented, and having behaved so heroically is nevertheless so easily lost in time. Like Rose says, he only exists now in her memories. And after she's gone, it'll be like he never existed at all (well, aside from this long story she just told about him lol). This seems to be a somewhat tragic chord they're trying to strike hard at the end of the film. Of how fleeting life is and how the past, regardless of how important at the time, can so quickly fade away to nothingness.

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Interestingly, there was a Joseph Dawson among the Titanic's crew, which lends credence to them knowing, without a "deep dive," that they had no records of any other J. Dawson.

I.e., they already know there's only J.Dawson listed on Titanic's manifest.

Didn't stop tourists from overrunning Joseph Dawson's memorial tomb in Halifax, Nova Scotia back in 1997.

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Oh yeah becuase he won that ticket in a lucky poker game so he never officially registered and purchased one. Not even sure if credit cards existed back then.

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No credit cards back then.

They most likely would have paid for their passage either cash or bank draft.

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I could not agree more about Danny Nucci, that accent was horrible, one of the few things I don’t like about this movie. But then again he sucks in pretty much everything he’s in.

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