For a poor 3rd class passenger, Jack is a handsome and down to Earth man who could win girls over within a second lol.
Cal is just insecure and a coward, considering he killed himself during the Great Depression and all.
Cal was much more superficially attractive than the baby-faced Jack. Handsome, sophisticated, intelligent, capable of being charming and well-behaved when he felt like faking it! Aside from being a total asshole, he had much more to offer women than Jack, and had no reason to be jealous of a layabout who looked fourteen.
No, he wasn't jealous of Jack, just murderously angry at him.
Why did Cal wanna shoot Jack again????? Oh yeah cause Rose and making love to him instead of Cal lol
shareNeed a "like" button in this forum.. Otter nailed it.
shareSpot on Otter, as always.
Jack was a bum, like me. Cal however was a handsome, sophisticated American prince, although I'm not sure how 'intelligent' he was considering his philistine rejection of the Pablo Picasso art Rose so admired.
Hey, he was intelligent enough to get himself one of the few remaining spaces on a lifeboat during a disaster!
Give the man credit for being able to think on his feet.
He was good at self-preservation. I'm not sure that makes him smart. It made him a coward.
In the original screenplay for Batman Returns, the Ice Princess pushes an old lady to then found during the Red Triangle Circus Gang's first attack on Gotham Plaza, but I don't think that made her smart. Quite the contrary in fact. It made her a selfish, thoughtless coward.
Shoving doesn't make someone smart, and Cal didn't get on the boat by shoving. Many tried that, and failed, but Cal succeeded where they failed by a clever multi-step plan that involved bamboozling several people! Admit it, you couldn't come up with a series of convincing lies and improv performances if you were terrified for your life, and neither could anyone but a clever sociopath.
Give credit where it's due.
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Suffice to say, you make an excellent point.
Lol how did he do that again. By lying as passing of a crying child as his own.
It was that little girl who saved him life. Since his "deal" to buy off a seat on a lifeboat failed.
Picasso sucks balls. Cal must be highly intelligent to reject it.
shareCal is just insecure and a coward, considering he killed himself during the Great Depression and all.
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but didn't Old Rose only say that she'd only heard Cal had killed himself? She didn't know for sure. Maybe it was just wishful thinking on her part. Maybe he lived a long and satisfied life with a beautiful wife and plenty of happy, smiling children. In fact, that's exactly what I think happened. It's just that Rose wanted to live in her bubble and believe otherwise.
shareForgive me if I'm mistaken, but didn't Old Rose only say that she'd only heard Cal had killed himself?
Fair enough.
I tend to go by 'the word of God' on these matters. So, either the original screenplay or the filmmakers/actors' statements.
I thought the flip "or so I heard" comment was more along the lines that she simply didn't care enough to ask if it were true or in any way further question what happened to Cal. Kind of a big middle finger to his fate.
shareThere are some nice contrasts between Cal and Jack. While Cal kills himself because he lost his wealth, Jack sacrifices himself to save another human being.
shareCal was a piece of garbage.
shareI think he loved Rose but, he didn't know how to show it except expressing it through one thing; money. Cal was angry at Jack because Jack was taking Rose away from him so that naturally made him jealous. If Cal wasn't a royal, I think he would have been a better person and less greedy too....
shareHe throws little boy hissy fits over every little thing. He even had the audacity to slap her across the face. Last time I checked, it was wrong to put your hands on any woman let alone your fiancé/ wife.
shareI'm not sure Rose's exertions below decks qualifies as "every little thing". She was out with another man late at night drinking and dancing and then lied about it. He stayed fairly calm through the discussion until she tried to back him down by saying that she was his fiance.
In fact, gauging by Rose's reaction, I'd say it was the first time Cal had ever raised his voice to Rose, much less slap her face.
Raising your voice is one thing! Hitting someone is crossing the line :(
shareI don't think Cal loved Rose one bit because like Tina Turner told Ike "What's love got to do with it?"
shareJealousy is hard to get over. And poor Cal had full-blown jealousy.
shareMy vision of Cal's suicide is, years after the sinking, he and his wife go to the movies and who else is on screen but "Rose Dawson". Prick as he was, he did love her completely as evidenced when he had the chance to leave the Titanic but stayed on board because she was still on board. It was evidenced before that too when he gave her the necklace just because she was melancholy.
When he saw her on screen he couldn't live with the totality of the knowledge she was alive and wanted nothing to do with him and that she loved Jack so much as to take his name and that is when he killed himself. It just happened to coincide with the crash of Wall Street.
Anyway, that's just how my mind filled in the blanks on Cal.