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So He Just Murdered His Brother


how could i ever believe this. Ridiculous........ So many other options as opposed to simply agreeing to something of nothing less than sinister. You could snag the gun away with the manipulation you have become used to.

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Yes, it was absurd, and added into the film screenplay no doubt to try and tie up the ending after some huge changes. In the book, Jacob is shot by Hank at the house with Lou/Nancy/Sonny (also not in the film). His character by this point is so obsessed with protecting his family and not being caught, that he shoots his brother. In coming to terms with that, he also murders a few more people with ease.

The film tried to make his character more likeable and sympathetic, which changed the story (and point of the story) completely in favour of a crowd-pleasing thriller. But in doing so, had the added scene where Jacob asks to be shot. Totally dumb.

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I like this movie and always have. But I have to admit that I found it odd that he would just shoot his brother like that. Reading your post sheds a bit more light on the matter. I haven't read the book, but it sounds like Hank was a bit more of a bad guy than he was in the film. In the movie he just seemed to be more of a 'good guy' type than he was in the book. Hank shooting Jacob seemed more like a mercy killing in the film.

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I had trouble with that also.

Schrodinger's cat walks into a bar, and / or doesn't.

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I agree. Shooting his brother made absolutely no sense at that point. I was frying my brain trying to figure out why. Thanks for clearing up the plot point that that he was already dead. How annoying.

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I didn't find this unbelievable at all. There's plenty of lead up to the idea that Jacob cannot take the pressure of the murders, and maintaining an untrue story, so the fact that he's suicidal is no surprise at all. But he is still willing to protect his brother who has a wife and child to think of, so offers them both an easier way out.

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how could i ever believe this


I agree. That's when the movie really ran off the rails. He spent the whole movie (and presumably his whole life) talking his brother into and out of things, then at that point, just said "OK, I guess I'll shoot you".

Not only did it not really make sense that he would shoot him, but once he did, he had no one to confirm his incredible story, which had now gotten one body more unbelievable. I'm still really fuzzy on what the "story" was. I mean, how exactly did his brother end up shot in the back with everyone else dead?

Yes, somehow the police and the FBI take his statement and believe every word of it, no questions asked. In fact, they're so convinced that they share confidential information about the case.

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True, they did share info and never suspected Hank, but he didn't know that. His paranoia was in overdrive. Could I shoot my brother? Hell no. I think 99% of people would say they couldn't in that case. But maybe that's what they were trying to convey? That he was so obsessed with not getting caught and protecting his family, he did an act no one else could do. He only had seconds to decide. I don't think it's realistic, but it's possible. I didn't like it, but it didn't ruin the movie for me.

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Men and women killing their family members has happened a bit over the years . The number 1 Reason ? Money.

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He wasn't going to kill him. Jacob was going to kill himself. So he either shot him, or Billy Bob Thornton would.
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Two things: (1.) Jacob wanted to die for several reasons and (2.) it was in Hank's best interest to give him what he wanted. After all, Jacob would never be able to keep his story straight or keep from talking at a bar. He was a screw-up. The ending is similar to "Of Mice and Men."

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In the movie they made it more sympathetic. In the book, he actually murdered his brother in cold blood. No negotiating. Just realized he couldn't trust him to keep quiet and killed him.

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