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why was there a pteranadon out at the end?


When in JP3 they were all locked in their cage?

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It might have been an error...I don't know, but The Lost World was supposed to have a scene at the end with the Pteranodons attacking the helicopters and they thought it would be a waste to not throw the animal in there at the end (which was the only good looking creature in that scene imho).

Also, the Pteranodons in the cages have teeth and the ones in TLW appearantly have not...

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Originally, there would be Pteranodons attacking the evacuees in the helicopters picking them up. The Stan Winston team worked long and hard on designing and building a Pteranodon head and (partial, if I'm not mistaken), body.

At the last minute, Spielberg changed the ending of the film, opting for a T-rex loose in San Diego, rather than the Pteranodon attack. The crew was displeased to find out all their work seemed to have been for nothing. To compromise, the (digital) Pteranodons were included in the final shot.

As for why it was out, while the Pteranodons in Jurassic Park III were locked in: theories are abundant, from them being different species (given they look so different) to it simply being an error on behalf of the creators of the third film.

Personally, I believe the Pteranodons in Jurassic Park III were not locked in at all. There is no way they could have survived for years in the confinements of that aviary, there simply would not be enough food to sustain them. My idea is there was a gap in the fence and they could come and go as they pleased, but chose to built their nests in the aviary, as it was high-up, safe from predators.

Eventually you do have dinosaurs on your dinosaur tour, right? Hello? Yes?

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The filmmakers of JP3 probably added the giant cage to explain why they were still on the island and why they didn't fly away and pop up in civilization.

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Yeah, but then wouldn't that mean everything else we saw in that scene is enclosed in the cage as well - The Tyrannosaurs, the Stegosaurs, and the blue sky above them?

In my opinion the scene at the end of the LW is one of the biggest dropped balls in the series, not only due to the implausible free-roaming pterasaurs that could easily leave the island at any time, but also the Stegosaurus herd complete with babies mindlessly migrating past a couple of aggressive Tyrannosaurs without any apprehension. It is truly a terrible scene. People like to target JPIII for retconning the pterasaur situation but it's LW's fault. The pterasaurs were just overkill, they were completely misplaced, random, and unnecessary.

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I'm not really sure what you're talking about. The only animal on the island that needed to be caged were the pteranodon. They walked into the cage by accident, chaos ensued, then they found their way out. I'm not sure where you're getting all of those other dinosaurs from.

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Your argument in your first post was that the island's Pteranodons were trapped in the cage seen in JP3, but the replier pointed out that in TLW's last scene the Pteranodons are clearly flying outside of a cage or any other limits.

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And as I said, logic-wise it was the best way to explain why there weren't any pternadon sightings in California or China or wherever after park opened. The ending of the Lost World with them just free to fly doesn't make any sense, and JP3 tried to fix that mistake. How else could they have done it?

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The mistake couldn't be fixed after TLW was released, because a movie can't be altered after its release (unless in later editions but that hasn't happened in this case), and the movie's last scene clearly shows Pteranodons flying freely in the open, even if that doesn't make sense.

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"Yeah, these dinos landed in Jersey and ate the family dog, it happens all the time." Or the cop out "The pterandon we produced aren't capable of flying long distances across oceans so they stick to the island." Those are pretty much the only ways to explain away the ending of TLW, and both are stupid as hell.

The filmmakers tried to explain away that nonsense in JP3 with the cages. It's not a perfect fit, but what other option did they have?

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They could've not bothered trying to fix the unfixable and just had the pteranodons flying freely, which would at least be consistent with what TLW showed.

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"The pterandon we produced aren't capable of flying long distances across oceans so they stick to the island."

Movie-wise that's a better explanation than most.

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Because that final shot actually takes place after JP3... Yeah. Let's go with that.

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When in JP3 they were all locked in their cage?

I always assumed it was a different species.

In my opinion the scene at the end of the LW is one of the biggest dropped balls in the series, not only due to the implausible free-roaming pterasaurs that could easily leave the island at any time

That never bothered me, really. You might as well say parrots could fly to Iceland at any time. The Pteras were bred in captivity, and live on an island with a fairly stable climate; they might not even be aware other places exist, let alone feel the need to seek them out.

Personally, I believe the Pteranodons in Jurassic Park III were not locked in at all. There is no way they could have survived for years in the confinements of that aviary, there simply would not be enough food to sustain them.

The cage area was clearly quite big, as there were the babies on the Mario cliffs. Also, there was water flowing through it, so they probably had enough fish.

Because that final shot actually takes place after JP3... Yeah. Let's go with that.

That could work. Maybe the Kirbies and Alan went to the island just as Malcolm and co were leaving, and the latter didn't pass through Eric's territory. I don't think the island shot was on the newscast, so it could happen any time.
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That could work. Maybe the Kirbies and Alan went to the island just as Malcolm and co were leaving, and the latter didn't pass through Eric's territory.


No dice. The "incident in San Diego" (i.e. the ending of this film) is referenced during Grant's symposium in Jurassic Park III. Thus the events of The Lost World have already happened by the time the third film's story begins.

I mean, really, how many times will you look under Jabba's manboobs?

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Old topic but my feelings are that the ones you see in TLW were able to break out of the aviary, probably through a hole in the cages given how run down they were, but never left the island because perhaps they preferred to nest in it.

After Jurassic 3 a few of the younger ones decided to actually be more explorative and left through said hole, probably after seeing the helicopters arrive.

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That's easy. Ignoring any in-story explanations, it's because Jurassic Park III and its aviary didn't exist yet.

I mean, really, how many times will you look under Jabba's manboobs?

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inside the cage human remains (apparently fresh human remains) were found in the Pteranodon nest. the only explanation for these remains is that they were the remains on the men from the boat who disappeared early in the film. this means the Pteranodons could get out of the cage at will. so the Pteranodon in the second film is not inconstant with the third.

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To be fair, they had the family T-Rex adjacent the Stegosaurus brigade in that same shot. I think it was just a quickie 'here's the island preserved as natural' shot, esp had it been the final film.

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