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Why change the colour of the vehicle?


In my view "The Jackal" was a completed pointless remake of the original "Day Of.." as well as being much poorer. One specific that really bugs me, however, are the two scenes that cover the colour of a van that The Jackal used. In the first he practiced spraying a top layer of white paint from the van, changing the colour to blue. He was particularly interested in how long this would take. I waited with interest to find out why he was doing this but when it came, nothing was explained. After a chase scene he ended up in an undergound car park, sprayed the white paint off, put some highly toxic paint on one of the van's handles and cleared off. Baddy turns up, sees the stream of white paint that has been washed off, goes to the now blue van, touches handle, dies. What was the point of all this? Hardly the actions of a cool, efficient assassin!

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indeed he is

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I just have one question how does this movie start out i have never seen it from the begining before?

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Oops turns out it ws a valid question which none of u answered correctly. Now I'm pretty sure, u correct me if I'm wrong, but I think then,
ummm yep that makes YOU the MORON! NUFF SAID! ;-p

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not so much though

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Are you saying that Canadians are not Americans?

It's political correctness gone mad.

I shall be writing to the daily mail.

Dick, this is nuts.

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I am amazed. I ask an innocent question, go away on holiday, and come back to find three abusive responses to my question! Is this really the way that these message boards work?

At least you provided an explanation, rather than just the straightforward namecalling that I got from the other two, but this does not answer my question at all.

Of course I realise the basic reason for changing the vehicle's colour (and number plate). But why use the special paint which could be sprayed off - and why time how long this would take? For the reasons stated in my original question this appeared to be totally pointless - unless, of course, you can explain something that I missed.

Hopefully I will get a polite response this time.

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Hello,

"I am amazed. I ask an innocent question, go away on holiday, and come back to find three abusive responses to my question! Is this really the way that these message boards work?"

Yes. The IMDB board is infested with stupid children of all ages.

As for your questions, you're right : the painting thing *is* pointless and totally artificial, just like the whole movie, IMO.

Olrik

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Olrik

Many thanks. Having experienced rudeness on my first go at using and IMDB board, it's a pleasure and a relief to get a polite and constructive response this time. Also totally agree with your comments on the film.

HS

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I agree with them, you're an idiot.

Why the special paint? Have you EVER painted anything in your life? Like real paint, not like face paint or nail paint. In case you were unaware paint takes quite awhile to dry, so he puts on a layer of easy to remove paint over the real color so that in 1-2 minutes he can change the color of the car rather than the hours and hours it would take to actually paint the car a new color.

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Johnny Dukes

I am getting a little fed up with this sort of posting. On what basis do you refer to me as an idiot? Do you know me? If not, you are basing the comment on the question that I have asked, which I thought was the purpose of these boards. This kind of pointless name-calling is the type of thing that most people will have left behind when they stop being children.

Now, to defend my question. For someone who obviously considers himself to be of a higher intelligence than me, I am surprised at your explanation as it seems to completely miss the point. I understand the obvious reason for changing the colour of the car after he had bought it, but why the need to change it back again? Unless that is explained the use of removeable paint is irrelevant. Even if you accept this, why was it important to know exactly how long it took to remove the paint?

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I agree with hsmith.

The time he took to wash the car far outweighed the 30 seconds advantage he gained by fooling the dumbass goon.
And if he was such a professional why leave an obvious trail of paint going down the drain? He surely would have taken the extra few seconds to give that a good spraying.

And what sort of futuristic fantasy world are we living in where underground car parks have jet washes? What will those crazy Yanks think of next?

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ok, i realise this comes a little late to the game but here goes.
the idea behind the paint is simple, given that the high profile "target" being in public several "get away' plans would be needed changing the color quickly would be an asset. the fact that it wass needed "early" was just bad luck for the Jackal. what i want to know is what is the super cool substance that was sprayed on the hatch handle that causes that kind of reaction that quickly.

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He sprayed some kind of shellfish toxin. Apparently. Best acting in a death scene, ever.

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<<<<<And what sort of futuristic fantasy world are we living in where underground car parks have jet washes? What will those crazy Yanks think of next?>>>>>

Well, maybe Yanks were the moviemakers, but the car park was in Montreal...

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Canadian, American, Australian, they're all Yanks to me.

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You miss the whole point.

He changed it not to hide that it was the car that was bought. He changed the color, with quick-remove paint, so that if party X was looking for a Y-colored Dodge Caravan he could quickly change the color to color Z making for a far more effective method of throwing off pursuit than if he merely changed plates. After all, anybody can walk into a parking garage and steal new plates, but it's just a bit harder to change the color of the car.

As for the question in your first paragraph, I have formed this opinion of you based on the evidence before me. I am not responsible for how you act on the internet, so if you act in a way that makes you appear the fool, you are thought as such.

To the other person who posted in response to this post (note: post not thread, I am aware many have posted here)

As you apparently know there are many places in the world, with customs and ways of doing things unique to each. In the United States things are not the same as in, I assume, Europe from whence you come. For one, we don't call them car parks, they're parking garages here. And we do have some where you can find coin-operated pressure washers with which to clean your car. Just because you don't have them in Europe (Or wherever you come from, I apologize if I assume incorrectly) doesn't make them bad, or wrong, it merely makes them different.

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It was in Canada.

Removing the paint doesn't really help make your mini van inconspicuous if there is a dead goon next to it.

It was pointless move anyway. They saw him go into the car park, sooner or later they would definitely see his little van.

A small blimp in a film which is otherwise completely perfect.

Jings begora oim Richard Gere so'so I ahm!



Dick, this is nuts.

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Yeah, forgot, but the differences between Canada and US aren't that significant so the point still stands. And I don't recall the dead goon having played any more of a role in the storyline except that he was attempting to steal the gun with his pals, the jackal didn't attract any attention because of his death.

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I'm surprised at the hostility towards a valid question.

My best guess, is that The Jackal knew the bad guys weren't going to touch the car if they didn't suspect anything conspiscious about the car itself. They would have found the car, and then looked for the Jackal himself, instead of checking around the van.

But I agree, it was totally pointless as it wouldn't have been very camouflaged with a dead guy lying beside it.

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well I didn't like the movie at all and can't answer your question and of course it is almost a year to the day since you wrote your question which seemed valid to me. but you have to remember that most of the idiots that chose to insult you have nothing better to do with themselves other than insult people, mainly because they are of limited intelligence, that is why they insult you because they don't have the intellect or capability to an answer you in a polite and decent manner, just because they got it they expect everyone else to.

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Hi. I'm from the future (or the past... I forget how it works... anyway, I'm responding to you from February 2013, 5.5 years after your question, so it's quite likely you'll never see this even if you ARE still around and have the same login name, etc.)

I came here because The Jackal is on and they just played the spray-off-paint-in-the-parking-garage scene and I had a related question.

I too was dismayed by the "you're a moron" responses (especially the one which used "your" LOL). And the one guy who did make SOME effort to respond acted like you had no idea why you'd want to change the color of a van... even though you obviously do know why (as do we all).

So, all I can do now is state my question as succinctly as possible, hoping that some (more polite) people are lurking about and can answer us both. (Not that you probably care after 5+ years)

As you noted, he is very concerned with how much time it takes to spray the white paint off the blue van. OK, fine. It MUST therefore be part of his plan. But when he gets chased by the terrorist bad guys, he implements that "plan". OK, I guess...maybe the white-to-blue plan was just in case he needed a quick change and wasn't a major part of his primary plan. Maybe. BUT (and here's the crux): If he had that kills-you-on-contact poison, why not just use THAT and leave the van white? The bad guys would obviously notice the still-white van and try to open it and die. In other words: What was the point of doing the white-to-blue thing if he as going to use the poison?

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I also think the OP asked a legitimate question, because changing the color of the vehicle *at this moment* didnt make much sense.

How did the Jackal know only one bad guy would come to his car and touch it? What if all three would have come to his car? Ok, one dies by the poison, but the other two?
Speaking of the other two, where did they go? Surely they would miss their buddy and look for him? Finding him dead NEXT TO that car?
So if the car is compromised anyway, why bother and remove the paint? Why waste precious time for a trick that most likely WONT work (wet white paint visible for minutes!) in combination with the poison instead of running to the hotel room straight away and disappear?

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davidwv, to your question "what was the point of doing the white-to-blue thing if he is going to use the poison?"

He doesn't want the terrorists to find the van at all, but in case the color switch doesn't work, the poison is a backup plan. Using the poison as the only plan complicates matters in a way that someone else already mentioned, which is that it leaves a dead body.

The poison is an absolute last resort. He'd prefer to avoid any and all attention and slip out undetected.

Also, the color swap is critical to his overall plan anyway, not just this single scenario in the parking garage. He knows he's compromised and that terrorists know what kind and color car he's driving. It would be stupid of him to assume that there is only one van full of terrorists after him. It's only safe to change the color of his vehicle so he can hope to fake out any others who might be after him, looking for a "big white van."

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Unfortunately, the reason the response to your question was so negative is the same reason Obama got elected president, not once, but twice. We have become a Nation predominantly made up of jerks. Sad, but true.

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At first glance this would seem the most likely answer but if you check out my earler answer and by check I mean watch the movie again carefully and verify 4 ur self that my answer is correct or not. NUFF SAID! ;-)

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Hi, if you go back a few chapters (when he was still in the canadian Charlie Murrdock "Desgise") He stops to clean his glasses but what he's actually doing is looking in the reflection (I think) and seeing that he was in fact being followed by people wanting to steal the gun he just bought and is now transporting in the van. In fact a few chapters previous to that is a phone call stating that the gun or package is being watched and he asks Police? and the reply (again to the best of my recollection) is Pirates. In any case he is trying to lose them and for a back up he sprays the epidermal poison. the time factor was needed because as you watch him drive up to and into the garage its all lah de dah sunday driving right! As soo as he out of sight he hauls azz down to were the pressure washer is (which he already scouted out how else would he know where it was)
With the Sun. drive charrade plus the Mario Andretti through the parking garage
and a little luck he should lose them however as luck turns out the paint was still noticeable bad luck 4 the Jackal Worse luck for te theif with the keen eye 4 detail. NUFF SAID! ;-)

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he timed the process of removing the paint in case he ever had to do it in a hurry he would know exactly where to go and what time he needed to remove it, thus down three levels of a garage.

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So is the lack of civility, vicariousjambi.

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Regardless of what others have said, I understand your point. He timed how long it took the paint to dry. How is this relevant when he later washes the paint off? It's not like he's going to stop somewhere and repaint the van to avoid detection. Instead, he washes the paint off revealing the color underneath.
Showing him timing the paint is pointless, but maybe it was supposed to play into effect somehwere else in the movie that was cut for whatever reason.

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I took it that he already knew how long it took for the paint to dry. The timing was to see when it was ready for him to test the speed with which he could remove it again.

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You'd think that with the budget he had to build the machine gun, he couldn've bought several crappy cars to switch between instead of dealing with the paint hassle.

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OK...this doesn't need to be this difficult. This is an average-at-best reiteration of a really well thought out and executed movie.

The car-wash scene is flawed...period. There's absolutely no defending it on any logical basis. The Jackal is being "chased" by the hijackers who've discovered either his purpose or his cargo. Whichever it is, it's irrelevant to the scene. The Jackal pulls into a garage, washes the temporary paint off his van in an effort to "disguise" it from the hijackers, and from there, the whole scene goes to hell in a handbasket.

What was the reason for washing the van and changing the license plate?? The jackal could have already been long gone without this distraction!! It's clearly a scene added for some sort of "dramatic effect"...but not effective at all. So he kills one of the hijackers with the toxic spray...what about the other hijackers?...we're never told. Where did the Jackal go?...we're never told. Why didn't the other hijackers (when they found their buddy frothing at the mouth) think to look for the van?...we're never told. We're left to assume that the Jackal waits...the hijackers disperse eventually...and the Jackal goes on to pursue his ultimate goal. OK...with a couple of beers, this makes complete sense to me, too!

Watch the original!!...at least the whole paint scheme makes SOME sense there.
Here, it's just a not-too-well-thought-out plot distraction. One of the *beep* scenes in the movie, I think...

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I think the "why of it" is fairly obvious to elude when necessary any one that might be looking for a particular color minivan that someone " might have seen" at some point or juncture ?The "how" of it is interesting ? i'm theorizing he applied some sort of " acid wash" that when pressurized water is applied it changes color ?

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No, it was just a thin coat of not very durable paint, peeling right off under a high-pressure hose.

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