Plot Holes


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I think these are plot holes, but maybe I missed something:
(1) How did the Jackal transport the gun and the van into America (discussed elsewhere)? (The Great Lakes sequence seems contrived to show the Jackal using an clever ruse and to include some nice scenes.)
(2) The gay liaison seems contrived. Yes, the Jackal probably wanted to avoid motels etc, but the setting up of the "host" seems over-complicated. After all he seems to effectively break in ("You found my keys, I see").
(3) Why after killing the Jack Black character who had tried to blackmail him over the plans, did he leave the plans in full view for the FBI to find?
(4) One of the "hijackers" is poisoned by touching the van but what happened to the other two?
(5) Why did the Jackal kill the guards at Isabella's house rather than killing her?
(6) Why did the Russian mafioso captured by the Russian police know about the Jackal if he and Terek had agreed not to speak about the contract?
(7) Why did the Jackal talk on the phone to Russian mafia contacts when he had told Terek not to use phone or fax to discuss anything?
(8) Why was the Jackal collecting information on the FBI Director if he wasn't the target after all and wasn't it a strange coincidence both he and the First Lady were supposed to be at the same hospital opening? (By the way does the FBI Director preside over charities?)

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In spite of being a lot of fun as entertainment, the plot holes and absurdities in the movie are so extravagant as to border on the comedic. I can add a few more.

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For example, how do you have a gunfight in a crowded subway without any cops showing up for ten minutes? Everyone not part of the action conveniently disappears completely. No trains come through the station. No new passengers enter the area. The police are all apparently 'elsewhere' for this long drawn out climax. lol

The funniest scene to me is when the Russian Agent is dying on the couch. She is literally bleeding to death. The paramedics stand around doing... absolutely nothing. No IV lines, no intubation, no compression of the bleeding area, no attempt to clamp the bleeders, no monitor, no leg elevation, no pressure suit. Not even so much as a blood pressure cuff is allowed to interrupt the long dialogue between her and the FBI. She literally exsanguinates on the spot while we see the paramedics staring in wrapt attention as she delivers her lines. I hope these guys don't show up if I have an 'emergency' lol.

And of course you've got Gere, a world class terrorist, getting virtually free reign on FBI HQ, sitting in on top level meetings, almost running the show at a military base.

Then you've got the uber-competent assassin who doesn't bother to pre-sight his superweapon on the dais or the podium, instead wasting time slewing around while the weapon is exposed to view. And he has a gun that could take out most of the hospital and the crowd but he has to spend time setting the sight on some specific part of her body? I wanted to yell, "Just press the damn red button Bruce".

I got more laughs out of this movie than anything else but I still enjoyed it a lot. There's no explaining taste, even mine :-)

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I thought one of the biggest plot holes was also in the moves the jackal does. They say in the movie that the difference between Gere and Willis is Gere was "fire all passion" and Willis was "ice, cold calculating emotionless" But when it comes down to it, Willis has his vendetta against Gere and Isabelle. Thats why he went to Isabelle's house and told the russian "cant protect his women" thats how Gere figures out its the first lady not the chairman. If willis really was emotionless he never woulda went to Isabella's house, thus gere never figures out who the target is, and willis gets his kill with NO problems from the overly dumb police and body guards.

dont pin this on jesus, hes got enough nails in him already -house

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Some people really need to understand the definition of a plot hole.
Plot hole is not related to a persons behaviour.
So the Jackal had a emotional weakspot for isabel thats unprofessionalism not a plot hole it

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agree, exadurated moments aren't plot holes. why the cops don't show up in a subway for ten minutes isn't a plot hole either.

sure there was alot of moments where it probably would turn out different in real life. but i can't say i know any film that doesn't have such moment.

its an ACTION flick ffs.

Zeitgeist

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you've got a way of writing humor rlange

SpiltPersonality

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Generally agree with all the other issues in the movie, but here is where I threw up my arms: at the end of the movie Sydney Potier's character runs to the podium and saves the first lady. Where was her army of Secret Service? Isn't it their job to not only get her out of the way, but to tackle guys like Potier making a run for the stage? And it seems like the only reason they did that was so that Potier would have the clout to let Gere walk away.

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"Just press the damn red button Bruce".

LOL i actually did say that the 1st time i seen the movie.

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Noticed the same thing about paramedic when Valentina is dying. If you watch all he does is hand *beep* to the other guy. And then when she dies literally everybody just stands around watching. Good stuff.

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Not that I will argue that this isn't a terrible movie (which I love btw), but they are not considered plot holes if you just missed what happened.
1) He brought they van across and left it at the gay man's house, then brought the weapon in on the ship. This is the scene where he stuffs it inside the hollowed out portion of the sail.
2)He calls the man who presumably lets him know where the key was because the jackal will be there before he is out of work. The man is also single, has likely cancelled plans of other guests coming over, and has a garage to leave the van in. This may also be to ruin the chance of another possible hi-jacking.
3) He killed him because he tried to blackmail him out of principle. It was impossible to trace these plans to the jackal (this is before he finds out anyone is even searching for him). JB has not given the plans to him yet, but instead left them at the shop.
4) I believe these two men probably didn't even know what happened to their friend, so they may have taken him and tried to save him. It could also be possible that they realized that they weren't up against an amateur, so they took off.
5) Isabella was already gone by then. He went there looking for her, but realized they had the house guarded, so he took them out.
6) Terek probably told his closest men so they knew why they were laying low, and his men knew Terek would reply publicly to avenge his brother.
7) Neither one said anything incriminating in this call, and Terek most likely called because it was kind of an emergency.
8) He wasn't, it was just the directors trying to throw the viewer off by putting the info of the first lady and the directors together in the same spot (like the picture in front of the hospital).

Here are some other amusing points-
Why is he in costume with Jack Black's character at all? He grew a mustache and spiked his hair up slightly. It was the worst costume I've ever seen.
Why was there a hose to wash off a car in a parking garage?
Who tipped him off about the hi-jackers?
Why is the russian lady involved in the case at all?

Hope this helps.

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more importantly, where the f*#k did isabella come from in the end?!?!?! she was back at home with her effing family and somehow she ends up in the right subway station after they run for a dam mile and shoots brucey in the neck. decklin deserved that kill man, he worked for it. dont bring in some skirt whos story ended 5 scenes ago to shoot the baddy. come on man.

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She shows up because Deckland calls her from a cell phone after he sees the Jackal plans to escape on the subway.

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Why did the secret service let the FBI rappel down from a helicopter onto a rooftop overlooking the scene that the secret service should have had covered to begin with? And I don't think the secret service would take too kindly allowing anyone other than them, and especially a convicted terrorist straight out of maximum security prison, handling a high powered weapon overlooking the first lady. Also, being from Chicago, they really lost me having the movie reverse the very old annual Mackinac race having the race go to Chicago instead of the other way around. The movie quickly slid downhill from there. I came to this site to compare notes with all plot holes I noticed and it was interesting to see how many everyone came up with. It amazes me that the director and writers could be so sloppy with such an all star cast (Gere, Willis, Poitier). Maybe I'll Netflix the 1973 version and see if they did a better job.

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(1) They don't go into it but not necessarily a plot hole, unanswered questions, unlikely events or chance occurrences are not always Plot Holes

(2) Again not a plot hole more a bizarre choice to steer the story or maybe he was gay. He liked playing dressups after all.
(3) Black was blackmailing Willis was keeping the plans aside.
(4) They split up to find jackal
(5) Conjecture, maybe couldnt find her ? unanswered question is not a plot hole.
(6) The agreement was made after the jackal was located, he would have needed help locating the Jackal the informant mention looking for the jackal
(7) Internet was compromised and Jackal initiated the call.
(8) Ever heard the saying keep your friends close enemies closer. but yes it was a strange instance but it add to the confusion of those determining his target.

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the single biggest plot hole surely is allowing the gere character free reign in the FBI building AND into meetings AND giving his opinion on a WHITEBOARD!! (he is also proven RIGHT... ALL of the time! a brainy terrorist that!!!)and then at the end seemingly directing the shooters as to where to go......
and was he let go in the end? was he let loose? its not clear in the movie



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Well, even with the explanations given above, the sequence in which the Jackal moves his weapon and his van into America (the yacht race, the gay liaison etc) is unnecessarily complicated. Whether you call it a plot hole or not. And the disappearance of the other 2 "hijackers" looks like over-editing. I bet in the original cut they were dealt with by the Jackal. After all you see them and him heading up in the hotel - and then nothing.

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This review courtesy of user kentashcraft that was so hysterical that I just had to post it here as my hat's off for that wonderful comic relief while warning me to steer clear of wasting my time. Enjoy:

Although The Jackal is one of my favorite films, due to the fine acting of all the principal players (especially Diane Venora), and good direction of the action scenes, the plot contains an amazing number of outright ludicrous elements that I must protest. Taking it from the beginning: In the opening scene, a coalition of police forces storms a Moscow nightclub to arrest a Russian gang figure named Gazzi. Now, as any policeman knows, the first thing you do in an arrest is handcuff the perp. But in this case, despite their overwhelming numbers and armament, Major Koslova (Venora) and Carter Preston (Sidney Poitier), stand and argue with the guy for a few minutes while the other police stand by and do nothing. This, of course, allows Gazzi to get the jump on Koslova with a knife. Not the greatest police work. Then as Gazzi and Koslova struggle, she manages to get her gun free and shoot him. A few minutes later Preston thanks her for saving his life. His life? She was the one he was trying to kill.

For revenge, Gazzi's brother hires the Jackal (Bruce Willis) to perform an assassination of, as it turns out, the First Lady of the U.S. In the next scene, the Jackal purchases a weapon on the internet - from some sort of eBay for terrorists, it would seem. He chooses a huge Gatling gun that fires monstrous depleted uranium bullets at an advertised 1400 rounds a minute (although if you time the actual firing later in the film, it isn't even a third of that rate). Now the question is: Was he high? If you want to kill a single person the best weapon is a sniper rifle of some kind, like the one used by the Jackal in the original novel. One of those would have been infinitely easier to acquire, transport, and hide. Instead he buys a machine cannon that would be more appropriate for engaging an entire army division. Okay, dramatic license, but please.

He smuggles the giant weapon to Canada, and there he contracts a local techno-hood (Jack Black) to build him a remote controlled firing apparatus. He tells the hood he doesn't want to attract any attention, and demands that he turn over the blueprints for the thing when he is finished. Then when the hood asks him or a few thousand bucks for the plans (out of 70 million the Jackal is being paid), he takes the guy out into the woods and uses him for target practice with his weapon, leaving the corpse and several hundred somewhat unusual depleted uranium bullets for the authorities to find. How's that for not attracting attention? In the book, the Jackal kills the guy in his house and hides the body, much more credibly.

After the gruesome murder scene is quickly discovered, Preston and Declan Mulqueen (Richard Gere) fly up to Canada and locate the hood's shop, where they find the blueprints for the firing station that were so important for the Jackal to destroy, although after he'd killed Black, the Jackal seems to have decided the blueprints weren't worth going back to the shop for. This is a guy that is the absolute best at his trade? Mulqueen takes one look at the plans for the device, which had nothing to do with the weapon itself except to mount it and fire it, and immediately deduces the exact cyclic rate of the weapon's automatic fire. Brainy.

The Jackal manages to smuggle the weapon across Lake Michigan on a pleasure boat, and as he's docked at a marina he spies Mulqueen, who appears to be searching for him (Mulqueen had not yet seen him at that point). Does he try to hide, to appear inconspicuous, to keep a low profile? No, he pulls out a gun and starts firing at Mulqueen! How's that for not attracting attention? Then he has to make a screaming getaway in his van. Great plan, for someone whose success depends on not being discovered.

For her safety, Mulqueen's former lover Isabella (Mathilda May) is moved out of her house by the FBI people, who fear the Jackal may come after her. Why he might be after her is never explained (perhaps he would need a pleasantly sadistic diversion from the tedious job of planning an assassination). Rather than leave the house empty, Koslova and an FBI agent remain in it, sitting ducks. Why? At one point they realize the Jackal is probably inside the house (they were outside at the time). Do they call for backup? Do they establish a perimeter and contain him, knowing that they have him boxed in? No, of course not. They run back into the house, where the Jackal, hiding and waiting for them, kills them both. Police Work 101? In the film's climactic scene, the Jackal and Mulqueen face off in a DC Metro station in the middle of the day. The scene is a good 5 minutes long, and for the duration of it no one else (except for Isabella) appears in the station. Even assuming that all the riders had been scared away by the gunplay, it's hard to imagine that no police of any variety showed up. Maybe the director waved them out.

Considering the competence of the good guys and the bad guy, it's surprising anybody won.

Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
- Kin Hubbard

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Not really a plot hole but where did they film the DC sequence at? Nothing about that part looked anything like DC. I think they took a few bad reference pictures and say run with it.

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This isn't really a plot hole but I'll still submit it as an inconsistency. The ticket reader for the metro at the end of the movie is wrong. In the DC Metro you feed a paper ticket into a machine which spits it out of another slot. The way the Jackal swiped the card through the reader is characteristic of the New York subway.

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