Sydney or Hard Eight
which one is the more legit tital?
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Sydney (P.T. Anderson's choice ). Hard Eight was studio decision.
share No wonder it sounds like a PTA choice, it's better! I even read somewhere that a producer on the movie demanded that his name show up in the beginning credits and by rule, if some person denies it, it has to happen and so, the credits role at the start of the movie. One of the things I found cool about "Boogie Nights" and "Magnolia", is that like many classic films, he stayed away from it and in "PDL", he canceled it all together.
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Hard Eight is the official title now, so if you go around talking about the film Sydney, some people may not know what you're talking about.
Anderson usually wants ALL of the credit for his films and demands to have no pre-film credits and just "A P.T. Anderson Film" instead. Sounds like a bit of an egomaniac to me.
Not really an "egomaniac", but somebody who has the utmost respect for the classics. This is how they used to do it with the credits at the end.
PTA is a filmmaker. Being orginal, is what makes him an artist.
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i think you will find that with old movies it the exact opposite. Watch a hitchcock and get back to me.
sharePersonally, I prefer Hard Eight. It ties the title in very cleverly to the plot points and nuances of the film. And also, I think it's kind of bland naming a film after the name of one of the characters. At least it's not called The Hard Eight or something like that...
shareI agree that "Sydney" is the better title but that's not the name of the film. Paul Thomas Anderson made "Sydney", his first movie, for Rysher films. Now he gets final cut and he works with studios like New Line and Revolution Studios that will let him release his films the way he wants to release them. However, he didn't have that luxury when he made his first film and the studios released the movie he called "Sydney" as "Hard Eight" so that is the film's title. If you go into a video store you aren't going to find it under "S". The fact that the film was ever called "Sydney" is a bit of trivia at best, IMDB should accept the fact that the film is called "Hard Eight" whether Paul Thomas Anderson likes it or not.
shareI only knew the film as HARD EIGHT. Great to know the filmmakers intended title. Bloody studio wankers. A true masterpiece. I original caught this film on video and it blew my mind. I knew that Anderson would be a director to watch. A truly great filmmaker. If u have not seen this film check it out right NOW, you are in for something which is very special ENJOY.
shareFor once, I agree with the studio ><. Hard Eight is more original, and flow better I think. It's just a *beep* awesome name is what it is.
shareWhat about the title "Sydney's Hard Eight"?
(insert adult video store joke here)
The people running the imdb must clearly be fans of PT Anderson movies to have it listed here as Sydney... on any video packaging I've seen it's called Hard Eight. I couldn't really give a s*** what it's called, it's still a decent film, but you can certainly sympathise with the director when executives start interfering.
shareIt is obviously known by both titles. Whys so "hard" to look it up in IMDB?
Why does IMDB play coy with hong kong movie movie titles?
Hong Kong was British until recently so the english titles are valid!
i just saw hard 8 on cable. No place did I see Sydney mentioned as a title. Not even at the end.
As far as pre-titles. That is totally common up into the 60's. Check out most anything from the USA from 30-65 or so.
Hitchock, Welles,ouston, Peckinpah even early Kubrick I believe.