Hi!
First of all, I love this movie.
Although I've seen it many times I can't understand Estella, her personality. Does she love Finn? Is she "crazy" in some way? Does she love him but at the same time she wants to drive him crazy?
Maybe I missing the point of the movie but I don't get it. Please, somebody tell me!
Thanks in advance.
quoted from sunsethoughts
"they are both flawed and though finn tries to keep getting with her in the end she doesn't know what she wants because she was raised to take and not to give. Finn knows this but he keeps on chasing her believeing she'll change."
Wow, I've met girls like her. One can't understand them. They are not evil or anything like it, it is just the way they are. I hope You wull never meet one. It leaves You scarred forever.
Women are like deer - You can't just charge in, you gotta stalk 'em...
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I reckon, the old lady raised her as her revenge against men. So when Estella does to Finn what she does, the old lady has succeeded. And that's when he tells her about his broken heart (her line from the beginning) and she realises that he is not her ex-fiancee and she has ruined his and Estella's lives. Hence: "What have I done?"
So, yes: Estella was raised to be mean to men in order to gratify her old aunt's desire for revenge on men in general, instead of the one who left her in specific.
And the light she is talking about in the cab is a metaphor for love. She was also taught to be very scared of love, that's why she doesn't go for Finn, although I reckon she's loved him all along.
That's my interpretation anyway.
"Who does this? A man, a man does this. So men must pay, am I right? Estella will make men weep. Oh yes, I taught her well. And when she returns, she'll cut through them like a hot knife on butter."
"Let's say, that there was a little girl, and from the time that she could remember she was taught to fear, let's say, she was taught to fear sunlight. Then, one sunny day, you ask her to go out and play, but she won't. Can you blame here?"
The problem with Estella really isnt her fault. Her aunt(Bancroft) was left at the alter so she basically hated men and she taught Estella to be the same way. She tells Estella to hurt them and scold them. Do you remember the scene where Finn is looking for estella and he finds her aunt. He tells her his heart is broken and she screams "What have I done?!" She was blaming herself for Estella's rejection to Finn
share> Her aunt(Bancroft) was left at the alter so she basically hated men and she taught Estella to be the same way. <
I'm being fickle when I say this, but it wasn't JUST that she was left at the altar, but a guy courted her, was her first sexual partner, and he left her at the altar when she wanted to commit to him.
Everyone that already posted is pretty much on the mark. Estella's issues with love and lack of emotion are the result of her crazy, bitter Aunt. Estella was taught from a young age to hate men and expect the worst from them. I believe that Estella WANTS to love Finn but is unable to due to being taught for so many years that love is equivalant to heartbreak. I also think Estella thought that love and making men fall for her was like a game in a way. She likes the feeling she gets when she feels wanted, however, when she begins to give feelings in return she gets scared and pulls away. Finn eventually figures out that Estella was brought up this way, however, he thinks he will be the man to change her. At the end when Estella apologizes, I think she realizes how much she has hurt Finn and how much she was actually hurt by her Aunt... whether she loves Finn at this point is still up for interpretation. I don't know if Estella will be able to ever truly love, however, I think that she loves him in the only way she knows how.
shareSomething about this movie is Sick!!! ( Hmmm I wonder what it is?)
share"Let's say, that there was a little girl, and from the time that she could remember she was taught to fear, let's say, she was taught to fear sunlight. Then, one sunny day, you ask her to go out and play, but she won't. Can you blame her?"
She fears her love that is my interpretation of it. The sunlight symbolises her love this manifests itself in her relationship with Finn (she loves him), but her fear of it makes it impossible for her to accept it. It's actually very noir in ways so subtle it could be overlooked, here you have this women who loves with a longing that eludes comprehension, and yet she cannot claim it.
I believe Estella really loved Finn but she was afraid to be with him because she was afraid of getting hurt. She teased him for a reason. Like whenever she kissed him or when she stripped naked for his portraits. She was getting what she wanted when she did stuff like that, without ever being in a real relationship with Finn. Even when they were kids, and Finn gave Estella her portrait. The expression on her face was amazement (then she sneered at it), and she even admitted that the portrait was beautiful, when they had grown up. She finally gave in and slept with Finn but then she pulled right back out. That's why she settled for the other guy, because she didn't truly love him. If he were to leave or hurt her in some way she probably wouldn't have been affected by it. If it was Finn on the other hand Estella would have probably had a nervous breakdown.
Katherinesboytoy
“You know that place between sleep and awake? That place where you still remember dreaming? That’s where I’ll always love you, Peter Pan. That’s where I’ll be waiting.”
OP - "Does she love him but at the same time she wants to drive him crazy?" OP can't understand her "personality"
Paltrow's "acting" doesn't help, I couldn't connect to her character one bit, this film is full of flaws.
OP is spot on, the explanations are fine but you don't really get Paltrow's character on it's own, she simply can't act.
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