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Nazi Aesthetic in Gattaca


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If Gattaca is Fascist…then does that mean the Fascists have done something right? Given the very high standard of living in the world of Gattaca. The clean and safe streets, the high tech world, the absence of abject poverty and other socio economic ills.

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It matches many of the themes in the film.

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What do you mean?

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The perfect race and eugenics was a big part of nazi Germany. In this film they touch on the concept constantly.

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Ah yes. But given how advanced and well governed Gattaca was…maybe they were doing something right with their Fascist characteristics.

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You don't get this movie.
Please watch some Riefenstahl flics instead...

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I have. And I’d rather live in Gattaca than in Wakanda.

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lol

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There needs to be a Nazi Germany so people who think that is a good idea can go there and get away from the rest of us! Jesus Christ.

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Fascism is meritocratic as opposed to socialism which strives for equality/equity etc through government meddling.

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Oh yeah. No government meddling whatsoever with fascism. That's for sure. Not with the press, not with the science, not with the administration, not with education. No, no. None.

And in a fascist society that would also happen to be racist or pro-eugenics (although they don't necessarily have to be...) very meritocratic too indeed, as we all know we all choose our own race.

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There is government meddling in Fascism. Just like we saw in Gattaca, even if they said the clinics were private.

The difference is the kind of meddling. In socialist societies the meddling is more obtrusive because they’re trying to square a circle by achieving equity for everyone. The human being is an unequal creature to begin with, so the attempts at equity often go awry that then require more government meddling.

The meddling in Fascist societies like the one in Gattaca is often more reactive and thus less obtrusive. The average citizen in Gattaca wasn’t looking over their shoulder in fear.

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"There is government meddling in Fascism."
>Indeed there is (I'm just not very good at sarcasm).

"The average citizen in Gattaca wasn’t looking over their shoulder in fear. "
> Well, those we follow during the film don't seem to. But I've got the feeling either Gattaca isn't showing the whole of society, or -if it is- that it eludes the very violent events and mass purging of second class citizens leading to the establishment of that society.

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Well with movies we sort of have to go with what we’re shown. Sure we can speculate but that’s all that it’ll remain, speculation.

How could there have been a mass purging? Vincent’s parents were invalids, and they looked stereotypically middle class.

When you look at it....other than personal issues that the characters face...there’s not much in the way of suffering in the world of Gattaca. Even the people who are at a socio economic disadvantage because they don’t have the genetic engineering to give them that physical/intellectual edge(because they were born before the technology became available or their parents decided not to opt for the eugenics)...they’re not out there begging in the streets. In fact the streets look pristine, the city looks well kept and there’s little in the way of crime or urban blight. On the subject of crime...the protagonist does mention the “J. Edgar’s.” It seems their society has a rather good and “Fashy” Police apparatus that maintains order and keeps crime at a minimum. Because the movie has a retro future feel to it, the cops look like Hoover men, hence the term.

Admittedly the movie doesn’t delve in too much on the subject of governance and infrastructural development....but it’s pretty obvious that just by looking at the surroundings...that the country portrayed(obviously America) in Gattaca is quite affluent all around and much better off socio economically, aesthetically and otherwise because it has adopted eugenics and futurism.

Gattaca showed a much more advanced and affluent future. There was no ghettos, no Favelas, no overpopulation, no terrorism, no riots, no looting, no beggars, no homelessness.

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