Harry Houdini?


I just watched this movie last night and it actually scared me...not because of the fact that there might be supernatural beings flying out there in my garden but because so many intelligent and respectable people were actually taken in by this 'incident'.
My question though is this.....why did the movie even include H. Houdini? From what I’ve gleaned on the internet, he never had anything to do with the matter...even if he knew about it; he didn't play a major role in spreading it like ACDoyle. So why was the point of his role in the movie? Honestly if you left him out completely it would not have made any difference. Any thoughts?

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The writers put Houdini in there as a cynic-turned-believer type to gloss over the matter of the fairies. If a man like Houdini, who spent the last years of his life debunking frauds and exposing imposters, tells the girls to keep their secrets, in a sense he has accepted what the girls have done, and the audience should, too. Whether the fairies were fake or real, everybody should just leave the matter alone, because Frances and Elsie were two little girls who meant no harm, and were having a little fun, and who really knows if they did or did not see genuine fairies in the garden, and blah, blah, blah, isn't this a heartwarming story? I know that this film was targeted for children, but when one starts dropping in small facts with a liberal application of fiction, one is bound to come up with a weak, overambitious script that ends up a mess with vague answers and more questions than before.

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I enjoyed the movie as a movie. I even liked the fact the filmmakers slipped in the WWI legend of "The Man in the Golden Armour." But of course the film is just fantasy.

The reason people were taken in by the girl's photos back in 1917 is rather simple if one looks to the time in which the story took place. The horrors of a world gone mad with the worst war that had ever occured wore people down and they needed something-anything-to bring back a sense of magic and innocence. As the movie suggests, the very notion gave hope and joy to those who suffered during the Great War.

As for Houdini (interestingly enough, I live about 20 minutes from where he died) was a skeptic who wanted to believe. What bothered him where the charlatans who preyed upon the gullible and he spent a great deal of his life exposing those frauds. It's rather sad to think the man who create such a wonderful character as Sherlock Holmes was one of the gullible in real life.

As a master of make believe himself, I don't know if ol' Harry would have minded this film so much, simply because like his own profession, its just entertaining lies.

And it was great seeing "Lord Percy" Tim McInnerny as the annoying reporter. Good casting all around.

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@ Dwleshwebb.

After you writing this..."It's rather sad to think the man who create such a wonderful character as Sherlock Holmes was one of the gullible in real life."

You still don't get it, do you!
And i would have found that sad, but i dont, i find it naive, bordering on gullible!

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Harry Houdini was a sceptic. Sir Arthur was a firm believer in spirtualist he believed he could talk to the dead through psychics and such and Houdini was firmly against that belief I think once I read that he even accompinied him to a seance(sp?) and proved that the psychic was a fake.

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Houdini attended many spiritualist and psychic readings searching for one true medium and never found one......

It's not like if there's nothing else on I'm gonna just turn the TV off ! ! !

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I think Houdini was included for the reason discussed in the previous posts: to show that despite the incredible popularity of seances and psychics, and their sway with "men of science" such as Conan Doyle, there were also at that time those who were actively involved in debunking same. The fact that his whole career was based on illusions and "death-defying" tricks just adds another layer to the many themes crammed into this NOT-for-children movie:
(e.g. a country obsessed with death and the dying due to war; the natural popularity of seances and pyschics at such a time, and the concomitant rise of groups such as the Theospohical Society; a family in particular obsessed with death and greiving due to the deaths of their son, the mother's sister, and Frances' father's presumed death; a country going through tremendous change as more and more of the countryside was industrialized [Elsie's father's breakthrough with electric lights leading to more shifts possible at the factory in Bradford]). Naturally, the sudden appearance of "missing" soldiers such as Frances' father must have happened with enough regularity to offer hope to many thousands more.

I think Houdini's comment to the girls about "never tell them how you do it" is meant to at least suggest that he thought they were faking it, without actually stating his position. I do think the writers/director wanted to leave it entirely ambiguous in our minds.

I only wish that my public library hadn't shelved this with the "family" movies.
Aside from the themes being way over my 6-year old's head, I didn't realize she would have to hear "watch your ass" in a movie about fairies!

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"NOT-for-children movie"


why do you think this is not for children, i watched it when i was 7 and i loved it, i think it is for children

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while reading the book "the secret life of Houdini" i came across this incident. Houdini did indeed go visit the girls with Sir Arthur and wrote in his diary that it was a hoax, but did not want to insult his then friend conan doyle or the little girls. so he said nothing, but he did not endorse the pictures either. Arthur conan doyle tried hard to get houdini to embrace spiritulism, even having houdini sit with Sir Arthur's wife(a medium) who then claimed houdini's mother was coming through to talk to him. houdini never believed it. eventually they went back and forth in the press ripping each other and Doyle even claimed that houdini refised to believe because his mother had told him he would soon die!

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