Yet another film from US thinking they know all about Ireland and its IRA history, yet as proved, they know nothing!
poor story line, poor acting, terrible accents etc etc.
not sure in this film who we are supposed to side with?
funny how since 9/11 the IRA (backed heavily by US) havent made a peep and funny how no such movies have appeared sinse..
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Yet another film from US thinking they know all about Ireland and its IRA history, yet as proved, they know nothing!
...funny how since 9/11 the IRA (backed heavily by US) havent made a peep
Who said it has to take sides? Was Titanic pro-ocean?
shareThe point of the film was to make the viewer pick a side. We have the cop who turns out not to be perfect (he covers for his partner's shooting); we have the IRA guy who doesn't mind killing but is shown to have a heart. Those characters could have ended up in each other's shoes. That's the whole point.
sharewhen i was in new york about 10 years ago i was staggered by the backing off the USA to the IRA they even had a float on the 4th of july parade in manhattan,and the crowd went wild when it went past everyone chanting'england out of ireland' i was in a pub on times square and was expected to donate money to 'the cause' and felt very much threatened and menaced to do so.
these kind of politics are the worst kind,people who don't see the carnage first hand and make there own conclussions about what is right and wrong from the other side of the world,it scares and revolts me.
I hear what you're saying. Irish-Americans are absolutely weird on this subject. Their Irish and American identities seem to exist in two separate boxes in their minds with no connection to each other at all. I've never met a single I-A who poured the contents of the boxes out into a single pile and related them to each other. For whatever reason, I did though, and this is what I got....
If the 300 years the Ulster Scots have existed in Northern Ireland does not grant them a right to be there, then, by the same moral logic, Whites have no right to be in North America and we should all give the keys of our houses to the nearest Indian and leave. If however we do have a right to be here, then the descendants of the Scottish colonists in Ulster have an equal right to live where they were born.
If it's legitimate that the Catholic/Nationalist community in Ulster nurtures such a strong sense of separate identity from Britain, then it's equally legitimate that the Protestant/Loyalist community do so from Ireland. There is no moral basis for demonizing one and lionizing the other.
If the original Irish immigrants to North America could come thousands of miles to make a new life for themselves, and this is a good thing, an admirable thing, then WHY can't the Nationalist dissidents in Ulster go an hour's travel across the border to live in the Republic of Ireland? I don't think there's a single place in Ulster more than fifty miles from the Irish border. HOW is packing their crap in a van and MOVING harder than fighting a guerrilla war for TWENTY YEARS and killing something like 3000 people in the process? I mean if it's that freaking important to them that the crooks who rip off their taxes have Irish, not British, accents....
I'm starting to talk as if this insanity is still going on which is, or was, the ultimate madness of the
Ulster War. Thank God it's over and May It Never Start Again.
Catholics in Northern Ireland were born there too. I've heard that there is a lot of discrimination against Catholics in employment, etc. What do you EXPECT to happen in that case?
Or should we tell black people in America to go back to Africa because white people have been here longer?
"Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?"
Your information is out-of-date. Northern Ireland now has rigid anti-discrimination laws. Like them or not, Protestant/Loyalist employers HAVE to hire Catholic/Nationalist job applicants if they have the requisite skills.
"Or should we tell black people in America to go back to Africa because white people have been here longer?"
You seem to be confused about the historical chronology. The Catholic/Nationalist community are the direct descendants of the old Gaelige-speaking natives of Ulster. THEY were there longer, not the Brits who conquered them. The Protestant/Loyalist community are the descendants of the British settlers.
Scum, the lot of them.
It is a delicious irony that both Boston and New York were victims of terrorist attacks.
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Actually since April of 1998. Tony Blair and Bill Clinton set up the Good Friday Agreement. Since then it's been pretty peaceful. 3 1/2 years before 9-11. And most Irish-Americans like myself, do not support the IRA. That's a fact. They started as freedom fighters but just became an excuse to kill.
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