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Wouldn't this creature die from the pressure of the surface?


If the "logic" behind the size of the creature was that it came from so far deep down in the ocean...wouldn't the change in pressure as it rose to the surface kill it? Same as if we went down to it's depths we would die....unless we wore some protective suit or were inside a submarine.


I know, it's just a movie...

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It could've adapted a pressurized vascular system, or adapts slowly as it moves to the surface. it's body looks fairly generalised, so there maybe no specialised 'lungs', just a series of bladders inside each tentacle to deal with different pressures, as each tentacle seemed able to digest people like an intestine, this would make killing the entire creature incredibly difficult if there is no sign of a head-brain structure.

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It could survive the huge change in pressure if it would rise to the surface slowly... which is doesn't, so it's a movie indeed :)
Deep sea fishes that are brought to the surface die due to a combination of decreased pressure and increased temperature, because the temperature down there is near the freezing point.

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It could survive the huge change in pressure if it would rise to the surface slowly... which is doesn't, so it's a movie indeed :)
Deep sea fishes that are brought to the surface die due to a combination of decreased pressure and increased temperature, because the temperature down there is near the freezing point.


This is all true, but due to it being a mythical creature, it may have some specialized adaptation. Maybe it only comes up every few decades, akin to some species of cicadas breeding cycle.

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i figure that the beast grew large down below, and slowly trained itself to come up to the surface. it grew rough and tough, like a body armor, and is now free to surface whenever it wishes

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i figure that the beast grew large down below, and slowly trained itself to come up to the surface.
Animals don't "train themselves" to adapt to harsh conditions, they just evolve over many generations as conditions change. The only species which can "train" itself to do such extreme things is man. And that's only because we are stupid enough to take such huge risks- other animals could hypothetically do it as well but are prevented from even thinking about it because of their natural survival instinct.

it grew rough and tough, like a body armor,
I don't know that much about how water and air pressure works, but I do know that body armor doesn't mean squat, especially when you're going from high to low pressure.

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You sat through this are are seriously discussing the scientific merit of the idea?

Strange fascinations,fascinating me.

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Actually, an animal can "change" itself within its lifetime to some degree; it's called acclimatization. But it's highly unlikely that something like what we saw in the movie could go from being a deep sea creature to attacking ships on the surface.

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So what your saying its the beast named Sue.

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It's a sea monster. They don't follow logic. Perhaps overtime they evolved to surface and descend regardless of pressure. Just watch Deep Star Six, with the decompressing humans and the monster that surfaces on a whim.

Actually don't, that movie makes Deep Rising look on par with Jaws. Not to mention the monster sucked - like a giant barnacle, really.

Man wouldn't do that.
This isn't a man.

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Always amazes me poeple bitchin bout logic on a movie like this. Dude this is a movie not ment for brainiacs, its amusement, you know, what you have to have a good laugh and a fun spent hour or so.
But if you wanna go on the logic tour,
Howcome those tentacles of the ottoia can move all over the ship, slide through pipes that are like 10 times smaller then them, at the beginning theres a chick getting pulled trough a toilet, while the ottoia itself doesnt appear IN the ship untill the end where it finnaly breaks through the hull.
Howcome people in a crashing elevator a dozen floors down just get up like nothing happened.
Howcome a half digested human being, with no more brain, is still capable to scream, let alone move.
Howcome Im asking stupid questions ?
Howcome Canton screwed up on the math ?

theres plenty more come to think of it, but hell, I enjoy this move alot. The DVD found his way into my player several times and still having a good laugh, especially the first shootout with the M1L1 guns, that one is hilarious.


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Shut the *beep* up

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Well said,my friend.

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Animals like the one in this film and Cloverfield would not be able to manage the pressure or temperature change, but then we wouldn't have a movie.

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Was watching this movie just now and visiting the boards, and saw this post. Figured what the hell :)

The main thing is from everything the movie shows, the creatures are invertebrates. Invertebrates acclimate much easier than vertebrates, since they are pretty much fluid-filled, whereas a fish still have air bladders that regulate buoyancy.

Also because these worms are invertebrates, they can squeeze into smaller spaces, like the baby octopus Finnegan references when they're in the kitchen.

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Also because these worms are invertebrates....

But these were not individual "worms". It was one big mollusc, with tentacles the each had their own mouths. It's actually pretty silly when they finally reveal it's an octopus with tentacles that eat on their own.

I enjoyed the movie when I saw it in the theater, until they revealed the creature. You had to suspend a lot of belief with the tentacles being eveywhere at once on this huge ship, yet it's head/body was elsewhere in the ship's bowels. I even laughed at how quickly this thing ate the thousands of passengers, including the chick on the toilet, almost immediately. I mean Treat Williams boat wasn't far away from the Argonautica, but it managed to eat and digest all those people in it seemed like under an hour.

Another thing that bugged me was that it was onboard the cruise ship, but it was able to pull Leila off of the smaller boat??

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Still an invertebrate, but I'm also willing to believe there were multiple creatures and then the one big final one we saw at the end. Just the smaller ones were never shown and we only saw the tentacles. Everyone has their own take, but I still enjoy the movie to this day, LOL

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Let me guess, the OP is a nerd?

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That is a good question.

It is not only changes in pressure which kill deep sea creatures rising to the surface.

Changes in water temperature and the amount of oxygen in the water also mean that most giant squid which reach the surface are dead or dying.

However,there are living creatures which can tolerate vast changes in water pressure. I am thinking of seals and especially whales. Especially sperm whales, probably the largest predators existing today and possibly the largest ever existing, who can dive not just hundreds of feet or thousands of feet deep, but sometimes even miles deep. while holding their breath.

So if real surface dwelling mega predators can adapt to diving thousands of feet and sometimes miles deep, theoretically there could POSSIBLY be deep sea dwelling mega predators who have adapted to rarely rise up thousands of feet, or even miles, to the surface to mate, or hunt, or whatever, and can survive the vast changes in pressure, etc.

And they might have caused many sea serpent sightings.

That is very unlikely but theoretically possible.

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an idea.... What if it was not 'so far deep' and had not been for a while? The beginning shows many destroyed ships on the ocean floor and the creature swimming around them. What if this creature had risen (due to a food shortage) from the miles deep to a mile deep or less. It would still be huge and it would have learned over many years that ships brought food. It looked (Again from the shipwrecks) that this had been its feeding ground for many many years. That would account for the acclimation to the pressure... not a sudden change but a change that had occurred many decades ago and much more slowly.

Or it is a fun and cheesy horror film and we just watch it and love it. Still, if you need to rationalize then I suggest the above.

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