I think putting Ivy and Mr. Freeze together was a cool idea...their powers are opposite and visually it called for something interesting
And that the story evolved around Alfred and his life...I thought that was a sweet idea
I would praise music...I love Elliot Goldenthall...but Batman Forever was better this movie is just too crazy
Ivy is my favorite too! There should have been more explicit sexual scenes with her, maybe a scene that would involve her becoming intimate with one of her victims as she suffocates him with her kiss, bloodily scratches him, and crushes him between her legs as she laughs with orgasmic pleasure over his death.
shareThat sounds like something the hit woman in 007 GoldenEye would do. But this movie was too kiddified to have something like that.
shareIvy and Freeze teaming up would need a pretty great story to be believable and in this movie with a bad story their agendas seemed way, way too different.
Yeah, the Alfred story and music are pretty good.
Yeah I didn´t say I liked the execution but the potential is interesting
I saw this movie after a loooong time. I loved it as a kid. I remembered it not so bad as everyone said.
Man it´s really bad :D
But so bad that it´s good. It´s entertainingly bad and funny
Freeze and Ivy do have a number of connecting factors. The "Forces of Nature" element, how both were created through the betrayal/abuse of a colleague, how both were physiologically transformed, how both became detached from as well as distrustful of humanity at large because of what happened to them, and both seek to save the single things they still hold a love for be it a sickly wife or plant-life. That's a lot to play with. And I'll even say that giving Bruce an arc about struggling with fully letting people into his trust and deep down wanting a sense of control by mastering death as explored through dealing with Alfred's both fit right in with those ideas thematically. In concept this should all make for a darn good story.
But it doesn't feel like it all comes together like it should. The narrative strands need to feel tighter as it's all a bunch of stuff that just happens to coincide with each other, and you're right in they needed to iron out what Freeze and Ivy's partnership was about. Freezing the world whilst simultaneously giving it back to the plant kingdom feels counter-intuitive. What, were they going to thaw it out when they were sure everybody was dead or something to proceed to phase 2? I dunno, but it just doesn't sit right. Maybe say she could somehow give him a cure for Nora's illness if he helped her fulfill some grand plan or something? Would take a bit more time and thought but I think you get the general picture.