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Could Rita have done the killings?? I think so....


Just wondering if anyone else thinks Rita Martinez could have committed the 2 killings, and not Garfield as most people think.
Rita definately had the motive after being gangbanged
Rita also knew about the drugs to use to put Cesar to sleep, as she learned about it in class with the pet rat of hers.
Rita also had access to Garfields house when he offered to tutor her...so she could have put/dropped the rosary beads at Garfields home. She also could have taken Garfields Bow and Arrow to knock out Cesar if Garfield did intead have a bow and arrow on his shelf which someone else brought up on another thread.

This might answer why so many people ask if Garfield really killed those 2 students.

laugh it up fuzzball

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I never looked at it that way..interesting

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@ Delayed_Blood

That made no sense...

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You could say she did it but the director intended it to be Mr. G. Why??? Cause after the dog was killed Mr. G looked down at the foot prints on the ground. Then the camera shows Cesar walking around on the dirt trail. Also, Mr. G. said he "went for a run" when the girl teacher asked him where he was. When in the movie did you see Mr. G go out for a run??? He used a bike and also a stationary bike for exercise.

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I thought Mr. G didn't do it? At the end of the movie doesn't Benny appear, in a blurry vision on the other side of the fence? Whoever it is, is wearing rosery beads. Also, doesn't the coroner say something when they comment about the barcode tattoo on the back of Benny's neck? They talk about his "face being caved in." Ceasar's attacker was never shown so...

I thought the entire "ending twist" was Mr. G's innocence?

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That wasn't Benny. That was the boy who says "Cesar, NO!" before Cesar fires the gun.


BUT, it IS a possibilty that Rita could have done it.

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I was also expecting someone else to be responsible by the end of the movie. For instance the fact that the "are you done now" or whatever was written on the chopped off finger wasnt spelled right. Maybe Mr. G was covering for Rita because he had nothing else to loose, yet she had a lot to loose?

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I don't think Rita would be smart enough to pull of those killings. and why would she want to frame Mr G or make people assume it was him. she had trouble with puncution like me so it would be harder to murder people so professinally.

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welp, i was deciding whether to watch this or grandma's boy again (hope that doesnt kill my credibility lol.)

came here, and saw it had decent reviews and curiosity got the best of me and i clicked this thread, so i ended up watching this with scrutiny on the subject.

gonna give arguemenst both ways...

Rita definately had the motive after being gangbanged


well i think by that point her mindset was that sex was normal as evidence in the way she wanted to 'thank' mr. G. but at the same time he opened her eyes that WASNT the norm. also, even though that is the most detrimental thing you could do to a woman, she had another implied reason with "puppet" being dead and her obvious wanting out of the "gang life"

Rita also knew about the drugs to use to put Cesar to sleep, as she learned about it in class with the pet rat of hers.


ehhhhhhhhh, yeah one lesson on a rat doesnt mean she knows how to shoot a bow (mind you while he was only drinking and smoking normal ole mary jane, he couldve been on something more to make him see *beep* afterall there was mr. coyote.) or how to figure out the right dosage NOT to kill him. and a big point ill bring up, yeah she had access to his house, but that was ONCE. after her nude escapade the locale was changed to a nice public library. so thats one of the biggest flaws. mind you though we can still support your theory and say "shes an inner city minority, she can get back in there" but that would be very un-PC of us!

Rita also had access to Garfields house when he offered to tutor her...so she could have put/dropped the rosary beads at Garfields home. She also could have taken Garfields Bow and Arrow to knock out Cesar if Garfield did intead have a bow and arrow on his shelf which someone else brought up on another thread.


welp yeah, i just covered the house access situation. but in defense of the rosary...screw the theory of her planting it, that would contradict the whole point of her doing the killings, why would she frame her savior?!?! but yeah, the glasses guy buddy of mr. G (counsler or something i think lol, damn if grandmas boy didnt kill it there goes my credibility) he mentioned that that particular rosary isnt anything rare and a crucifix is VERY over established object in mr. G's house towards the end. ("ok its established, ok ok ooooook its established already" -michael j. nelson... sorry inane MST3k/rifftrax comparrison, just ignore that.) so yeah, he very well may be a rosary owning catholic himself.

all and all his "deer hunter lesson" at the end and the points he made to good ole cesar would definantly be more poignant if he WASNT the killer/attacker, BUT in the end we must assume he was; as he showed regret and possibly self doubt in the bathroom scene and showed protective qualities towards his female coworker and rita. and his obvious feelings they deserved what they got, and the deliberate bad grammar of "r u don?" does help his "Deer hunter lesson" ... oh sweet irony.

either way, a 6 or so outta 10 movie that thanks to this post was more interesting than it may have been. good sh-t! thank you.

then also i think someone mentioned he always exercise biked and said he went out for a "run" but im quite sure i heard him say "went out for a ride" just another quick waste of time.

i apologize for this boring read, but i... ladies and gentlemen. am QUITE bored myself. otherwise i would never have spent so much time on the mos eisley of website forums.

EDIT*** also, whos to say either killed benny, the only evidence tying it to either of them under any theories is the rosary that may have just been mr. G's. he was a gang banger on the run, anything couldve happened.

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