MovieChat Forums > One Eight Seven (1997) Discussion > So Cesar shows regrets towards the endin...

So Cesar shows regrets towards the ending?

posted 16 years ago by bigkabuto
7 replies | jump to latest

When Garfield is about to use the gun for the last time, Cesar shouts 'NO' , the stuff that Garfield told him obviously 'touched' him in a way. When Garfield says something about his stupidity and idiotic way of living, Cesar in a rather emotionally tone says it's all he has. And that's the part where Garfield decides to take Cesar's turn.

So it seemed like he felt regret for being that way...but when Garfield's dead and Cesar decides to use the gun as well he says he ain't gonna lose from this sucker....why say that? He keeps saying it was supposed to be his turn...that would've meant he would be dead by now...i guess he wished death then.

But a real good part...throughout the whole movie he's this tough guy acting all macho and *beep* this showed a whole different side of him.

And i can really identify with Garfield...got stabbed by one of his own studens, it's brave enough that he still wants to teach and has the guts for it. These two 'students' make his life very hard though...destroying the classroom, killing the dog of Ellen (was that her name?)...Garfield just lost it.

And Benny got what he deserved...killing that dude who was taggin..come on now. The dude even said he could undo it and stuff, but Benny shot him to death nonetheless, without any hesitation. Sorry...not feeling sorry for him at all.

[–] 16 years ago

[deleted]

[–] bigkabuto 16 years ago

Haven't seen that movie, it doesn't ring a bell to me..so i will check it out.
I DO remember the actor from other movies though.

[–] herbsuperb 16 years ago

I'm thinking that Cesar did not have the cognitive ability to process such complex emotions as remorse, regret, or empathy for others. He was a savage animal who cared only for himself and his baser needs (drugs, booze, and for some reason "respect"). He may not have been born that way, but over his short pathetic life he and his surroundings boiled his brain off to practically nothing. By being dead the whole area is better off. From what we saw in the story his life was beyond redemption.

[–] 16 years ago

[deleted]

[–] Na280 15 years ago

I agree with you, it's a great scene, I love that Cesar shows regret & feelings. It's amazing that both of them die I like that.

It's like Garfield died to teach Cesar a lesson. And he did, and I love that Cesar kills himself, it's so. weird but good!
As for Benny, whatever he deserved to die whether he was a real person or in this movie. HATE HIM!
But love the movie though

[–] fiatlux-1 14 years ago

The ending was a twist I never saw coming, it was powerful & incredible!

I also was startled by Ceasar's admission that macho was all he had, and by his momentary feeling by Garfield 'taking his turn'.
Ceasar was saying Garfield took his turn with the gun, his turn to die. What's wickedly ironic about this scene also is that Garfield may have had a feeling Ceasar would react that way (pull the trigger again) because he says
"Are you willing to die for stupidity, Ceasar? Because I am...if it'll teach you something."
But Garfield's death didn't teach Ceasar anything. He still took the gun and used it, was still *macho*. He, by Garfield's definition, died for stupidity.

"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

[–] darock06 14 years ago

Yea, it's sad. Cesar for a moment seemed like he had finally woken up, and saw that his life was approaching a dead end unless he changed himself, and that's what Garfield was counting on, even if his friends killed him anyway. But like somebody said, Cesar believed Garfield bravely took his turn, and felt he had to redeem himself and take at least one more turn. The ending was powerful, though. Hopefully anybody out there caught up in gangs will get the message from the movie.