Wolfgang made it very clear to Robson that if he wanted protection he had to become his prag. Robson took time to think about it, said yes "you can funk me" and then cries rape because Wolfgang wasn't gentle about it.
You volunteered to be a prag Robison, like a batch.... and Beecher bit off the tip of your dong.
I think you're the opposite of paranoid, I think you walk around with the delusion people like you.
Getting protection and being coerced into sexual payments is still rape IMO! If it was a real relationship like Beecher and Keller's, that would be different! Robson was being assaulted on a regular basis, but took it just to stay alive! Not like I have any sympathy for him since he was such a prick! I still remember his pecker getting "bit off" when he tried to force Beecher to "do him!"
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I disagree. Cutler wasn't going to touch Robson, it wasn't until Robson literally said, "yes you can commit unspeakable sexual acts on me as long as you protect me" that Cutler committed said acts. While certainly unpleasant and horrific, Robson made it very clear he was willing.
It's not like when Schillinger raped Beecher, because Beecher never said "yes as long as you protect me" and certainly not like Beecher and Keller. But Robson VOLUNTEERED to be a prag.
And He wasn't coerced into accepting Cutler's offer, Cutler said "this is the cost", Robson thought about it and came back to him and said yes, he AGREED to sexual payment because he's a puss. A victim of horrendous sex acts, yes. But a victim of rape, no.
I think you're the opposite of paranoid, I think you walk around with the delusion people like you.
I found it inconceivable Robson could come up with a plan and execute it to get out of his abuse, then get back into the good graces of the Brotherhood! If he was that smart, he wouldn't have been in prison in the first place! I'm still wondering why Cutler left all his possessions to Alvarez; of all people?
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Seriously, just gets right back in, no trouble. Especially when you consider Cutler was friendly with the Aryans, and they didn't even mention he if he wasn't allowed in cause Omar White choked him to death and brought him back.
As for giving his stuff to Alvarez I still don't get it. Other than maybe just because Alveraz was stage manager and a latino and who might screw over his wife as Aryan or friend probably would've just signed the stuff over
I absolutely agree, sexual acts by way of coercion is definitely still rape.
If someone puts a gun to your head and says, "Fuck me or die" (which is essentially the ultimatum here), and you make the choice to live, that doesn't mean that you wanted sex with that person; it just means that you didn't want to die. That's an example of rape. It's not always by brute force.
In the case of Robson and Cutler, Robson knew that without protection from someone, he'd surely be killed. He didn't want to die, so he was forced to make that horrible decision to submit to Cutler, because it was simply a matter of survival.
I can't imagine being in that position and having to make that choice, but I'm sure the majority of us would prefer to live. Robson did what he had to do to survive.
Bullshit. Robson made a deal. Cutler did not force him into anything and he wasn't he threat. Robson gave him sexual favours in return for his backing.
If Cutler had been he threat and gave Robson an ultimatum hen that would be rape but the scenario in question was 100% no rape. in any way.
You see what good it did Guenzel to fight off the pack! He was a bloody mess just about left for dead! Few if any had any sympathy for him! What a creep!
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I'll never get over the spoon.
shareHow would we feel about this if we had no laws and lived in an apocalyptic world?
But seriously, didn't he at some point say "no" or what has actually happened?
I haven't seen the episode myself but...
Let's say it was STILL humiliating for him even IF he has consented to it, what kind of treatment would he GET for it as opposed to if it was forced on him, beyond the obvious part about that if it really WAS forced, then there is a guilty offender in his world that should be punished.
Or was it not that humiliating?
The greatest trick the Devil has ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist!