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What episode epitomizes the show?


I'm a huge fan of "King of the Hill" and have been so for years. However, everyone I've ever tried to introduce the show to hasn't taken to it. I don't know if they don't understand the humor, or if it's something else, but they never seem wowed by the show. I wonder if perhaps it's the episodes I'm showing.

So I have two questions, which are somewhat related but also separate:

1. What episode epitomizes the show for you? Which one perfectly sums up the theme, comedic tone, pacing, characters, and all that makes "King of the Hill" the show it is?

2. What episode is best for introducing the show to someone who has never seen it before? I wonder if the episodes I show are not the right ones for beginners. For instance, "A Fire Fighting We Will Go" is hilarious, perhaps one of the funniest episodes. However, it's a very unusual episode, and the humor is not the typical "King of the Hill" style. The jokes are much more slapstick and less dry and character driven.

Similarly, "Dog Dale Afternoon" (the episode where Dale gets a new Mason lawnmower) was one of my favorites for a long time, and I've often shown it to people who've never seen the show. It's a very funny episode, but let's be honest, the plot and some of the jokes are a bit strange.

Both of those episodes are a little bizarre. Are they poor choices for new-comers, and what episodes would be better?

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As someone who's also unsuccesfully tried to convert people to this show, I think this is a very interesting question.

As you said, the humor is very character driven so it's difficult for someone just jumping in to understand what's so funny about this show. They might see a Peggy-centric episode and dislike it, or watch one about Bill and love it. Another great thing about this show is the subtle nuances that you don't really notice until multiple viewings, such as Hank commenting about a big oak tree being cut down that is for some reason in the middle of a baseball park or Peggy proudly framing a diploma to "Pomp and Circumstance" only to reveal she was playing it on a cassette deck.

For question 1 I'm going to have to rewatch some epidodes and come back to this comment. For someone who's never seen the show I would recomend the episode that got me hooked, Bobby Goes Nuts. It's one of the series most beloved episodes and Pamela Adlon won an emmy for voicing Bobby. I think it has enough mainstream appeal but also exemplifies the humor and heart this show is known by the fans for. It's also the highest rated episode on IMDB. For the record, I love both of the episodes you mentioned. I think most people would like "A Firefighting We Will Go", which is the 2nd highest-rated episode, but like you said it's very 3 Stooges-esque and not like any others.




Formerly Eclectic_Flamingo

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Stick to the first couple of seasons since the characters are still being developed and the plots are simpler.

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Of course. I wouldn't want to show them the bland later episodes. All of the episodes I try to show are from the best era of KotH, so they're all older ones.

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A friend of mine recently got me into this show and now I've watched the first 11 and a half seasons. Might be different for others but the three episodes which got me interested were:

1) The Exterminator.

2) The Buck stops here.

3) Of Mice and Little Green Men.

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"

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I'd go with Luanne' Saga. It has the concept of trying to move on after a break up and Hank seems like the kind of guy who would help someone move on from an emotional break up.

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You either get it or you don't. You have to pay attention to every line to appreciate the humor and humanity. It's the little things: when Bobby yells for Peggy to come into his bedroom and she says "What is it, I've got soup in the microwave" the only response is laughter because of the absurdity of the line.

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What's funny about soup in the microwave? Is there something about the episode that line is in which makes it funny? I don't remember which episode that's from.

Haven't you put canned soup in the microwave or used the microwave to reheat homemade soup?

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The Pilot was amazingly a good start.. and a strong setup for the characters. Which is pretty darn amazing as most shows roughly stumble out of the gate. But I was surprised to see that King of the Hill pretty much knew what it was from episode 1.

Jumpin Crack Bass is a great episode.. and I LOVED the episode "Ho Yeah" with Rene Zellwegger turning Hank into the accidental pimp.

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I think chasing bobby really sets the show for me, great episode about hank bobby and his truck!

i would say 9 prettyd arn agry men about the mower focus group is best for newbies, great humor

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The thing about this show - which I still don't really get, I suppose - is that it's VERY mediocre.

What I mean is, whatever level a viewer is assessing it on, there's something better.

When you have 'The Simpsons', 'Family Guy', 'South Park', 'Dilbert' and who knows how many others, then you have non-cartoon sitcoms like 'Seinfeld', 'Curb Your Enthusiasm', even 'The IT Crowd' and such, not to mention the older stuff, like 'Black Adder', 'Monty Python's Flying Circus' (plus the movies), you have a tough job convincing almost anyone to choose THIS particular show to watch.

There are shows with more and better humor, faster pace, more energy, more immersion, better art..

(this show's art is interesting exactly because it's so unimpressive, and yet somewhat competent at the same time - it almost has no personality, as if the creators wanted to draw 'as realistic visuals as possible', without having the talent to really pull it off, but also not having a vision to make it quirky, unique or individualistic, so it's 'familiar but bland').

There are shows that have more unique stories, more individualistic art, better animation, and so on.

Then there are shows that are more edgy, have a deeper meaning, poke fun at more political or topical stuff, are more relatable and so on. There's more beauty in other shows (it's hard to find many characters that are actually beautiful to look at - even the main characters look like drawn by someone that has neither sense of beauty nor talent to draw - just look at Bobby, who would want a kid (or even a friend) that looks like that?)..

The problem might be that this show sort of falls inbetween the cracks of all the other shows and movies that exist. Why watch this, when The Simpsons did some story better? Why watch this, when South Park's version of the same joke is more edgy and poignant, and its artstyle more quirky and individualistic (lending the viewer the opportunity for escapism better)?

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A lot of the humor (or 'humor') of this show is a very slow burn, doesn't jump at you, doesn't punch you and force you to laugh, but might create a chuckle when you think about the ridiculousness of the situation as a whole or the attitude-conflict of some characters.

This show takes some 'difficult topics' that are relatable, but then 'handles' them in a way to just tie a neat knot at the end for Hank and his family, without actually delving into the uncomfortable solutions or the intimidating inability to solve such issues at all. It scoops a spoonful of surface matter, but doesn't actually dive into the topic properly. What could be a profound, poignant, maybe even slightly lecturing three-episode special, just ends up ending abruptly when Bobby 'realizes the error of his thinking' and we NEVER hear of that topic again.

This show dabbles in 'everything', without truly bringing you anything, without truly making a statement and standing behind it - the viewer is left confused as to what the show, episode or even character(s) REALLY want to say. It seems the answer is 'nothing'. It's like they do things just to make Hank do his weird 'gasp sound', and from that point on, no one cares what happens, because that seems to be the goal.

KotH (not KOTH) is a lot like 'Return of the Jedi', in the sense that it ties the knots a bit too neatly, it adds unnecessary fluff that leads nowhere, and then it makes things ridiculous without having any consequences. This leaves the viewer basically unsatisfied - would've been better to have SOME kind of story arc here or there. Bobby ages from 12 to 13, but no further? Huh? He never grows any hair?

After all Hank learns throughout the show, he never changes in any big way. He never really reconsiders his overly strict, conservative values or habits, he never grows or expands his thinking. He just remains the same, dull, monotone, strict guy who doesn't understand the world at all, but thinks he does.

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This show never really grabs you to make you laugh, to force you to think about difficult topics and dilemmas in life, to expose your own hypocrisy or anything like that, that other shows actually accomplish doing. Even The Simpsons has deep, poignant episodes that make you ponder.

This show starts to go in some direction, but quickly comes back to tie the knot for the episode - things are never allowed to be left open. I have never seen a show more episodic than this one as well - some things go on in the background, but for the most part, if you have seen a few random episodes, you have basically seen the whole show, because it doesn't deviate from the formula that becomes more repetitive as the show goes on, you can almost predict the whole episode from the first couple of minutes.

Wouldn't it have been more interesting if after Hank's accidental 'Mary Jane' experience, he would've in some later episode remembered what it felt like and wanted to try it again or something? They have an 'addiction' episode, but it's just cigarettes, instead of something more mind-expanding or society-exposing.

How about Dale's conspiracy stuff actually being more based on the truth and actually leading to an evil agenda the Powers That Be, The Bilderberg Group, etc. have been following and executing throughout history, and then Dale would never quite be himself again, bumping into this whole thing every now and then, and becoming more unhinged as he knows no one would believe him.. or something? But nope, he remains the same character without any growth or change throughout the show.

Everyone lives in a bubble they never venture outside of.. Bobby never makes any girl pregnant, Connie never does anything 'wild' (and then disappears from the show for some reason), Khan never exhibits signs of manic-depression before the very last episode (?).. what kind of retcon is THAT?

I don't know why people like this show - it can be mildly entertaining sometimes, but..

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I really liked the episode where the monks thought Bobby was the next incarnation of the Delai Lama. Very sweet conclusion.

I only saw it for the first time just recently.

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