Methadone


Just some info on methadone gathered from personal experience. Methadone is given once a day in a single dose, it lasts a very long time compared to heroin. I have actually missed doses and not had problems (48 hours between doses). So Renton would would not have had 3 doses a day and he wouldn't have started withdrawing the same day (unless he wasn't on a high enough dose). Anyways like I said this is from experience so if anybody has additional info please share, I hope I informed sone peeps and I'm not knocking the movie at all because most people would never think twice about that part.

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Em I think it depends on the addict, I used to work in a pharmacy and they meth guys would always show up at the same time every day needing there meth, a few times one of them missed his dose and he would come in the following day looking rough and needing his "fix" one day he said that if he took all his meth on friday and not leave any for Saturday and Sunday he'd be dying for a fix by Saturday and would almost end up taking some other form of drug to ease the symptoms of withdrawal x hope that helps x

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He was either not on a high enough dose, or he's bullcrapping you....i've been on methadone for 2yrs and i've been on a stable dose for over a year, and i can tell yah that i can easily go 48hrs without a dose before i start to feel any symptoms at all.....and i'm only on 50mgs

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how long will you be on methadone? my only experience with heroin comes from this book/movie, so, as you can imagine, i know nothing about it ;) i understood methadone to be a stepping-stone treatment to get an addict off of heroin and, ultimately, off methadone, as well. is that incorrect? will you need to be on methadone permanently? sorry for the personal questions on a public forum.

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Don't be sorry about asking me about it, i'm an open book :) i was addicted to pain pills, my wife got oxycontin prescribed to her cuz of her fibromyalgia and scholiosis and i started snorting them daily, then she got on something else and i started buying them til i ran out of money....so i went to the methadone clinic and i've been on it for 2yrs now, and i've been on a stable dose for a year now.....i know some people that have been on it for 10yrs, but that's not what i want, i've been decreasing my milligram for the past 6 months cuz i want to be totally off of it by new years.....

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good for you for making such positive steps and goals! i wish you and your wife the best - stay strong for each other! :)

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Thank you very much!! Yeah, we have 3 wonderful kids, and if it wasn't for them and my wife i'd either be in jail or dead. I now know why God put me on Earth, to be a daddy :)

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I think that it was more of the psychological withdrawal than the physical. I was on methadone for 2.5 years and I remember one person in particular that would claim that he was still sick after drinking 130mls a day and would proceed to drink more so he would not be "sick". The thing is that he was still chasing the high and so he would double dose. I know that I've had my good and my bad days but I remember that once I got into the mode that I was getting off of methadone and not looking back I dropped from 120mls to 10 mls in 6 months and for the last 2 months (8 months total) I slowly weaned off of it all together. It was no walk in the park but Giahead33 I want you to know I tip my hat to your hard work and dedication and wish you and your family nothing but the best and am confident that you will be successful in getting off methadone. Congratulations on taking your life back from the shyte that controlled it for too long!

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Tyvm....you're correct, 95% of it is mental, most definately

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I know you asked this years ago and might not be curious anymore...but these days methadone is also used for chronic pain. It's a stable, affordable, long-acting opiate that is very effective for pain without giving the huge peaks and valleys (getting a rush/high that lasts a few hours and then disappearing from the body rapidly, leaving you in pain again) that usually comes with shorter-acting pain meds like vicodin and dilaudid. That's not to say that it doesn't have its own set of problems though...side effects are pretty rough (for me, severe constipation, total lack of ability to experience orgasm, and a general tired/cranky feeling) and it creates a physical dependence that is just as severe as any other opiate. And getting off it is pretty darn rough if you take it too long. I know this from personal experience. I was on it for 14 years following a failed brain surgery.

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Why would anyone (except a real puss) be on methadone for 2 years? Heroin withdrawal lasts a week. It might be nasty, but it is never fatal. Work hard, pay taxes, money goes to scum junkies for methadone which they sell half the time

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no matter how much methadone you're on it's not the same thing. For many I think they are addicted to the needle- the actual act of shooting up, the ritual, it really is just like sex- the penetration, the explosion, the aftereffects of an orgasm that leaves you calm for hours...whereas methadone is just a quick tug in the backseat of the car, not the same thing at all!! Plus, when you go get methadone the pharmacist always looks at you like scum- at least a dealer is happy to see you!!

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The girls who dispense my Meth' always treat me with kindness and respect.

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Just taper off methadone very slowly. I was down to like 5mg or something like that and I stopped going to the clinic and I had trouble sleeping and was fatigued for close to a month.

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Of course you are going to get some effects, you can't come off anything and expect to be 100%. I think that's what it comes down to, expectations. The funny thing is, many people have issues like not being able to sleep and having other health or mental health issues, or just some discomfiture which makes ordinary boring old daily life too hard and they think getting onto drugs (illegal AND legal) is going to fix that. *beep* happens in life, to our bodies and minds, as well as long periods of mind-numbing boredom, you just have to get used to it.

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the pills can be 3x a day especially in the time frame of which the movie was set. also I spent 5 years almost on methadone and just got off it 35 days ago it was detrimental to my life and its a crutch that is horrible and still puts u in a environment that constantly puts u at risk for being around other addicts and all. not that I think it should be outlawed or anything it does save lives but half those people aren't using it the right way

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Was on it for 6 years and was titrated obviously by the 6th year, i was constantly up and down depending if i had relapsed or personal situations but roughly on 60ml per day at the last year and i can say that when i got down to 40ml a day near the start of my programme i was able to miss a day but when i got further in to it, maybe getting older or being on it longer needing it more than before but if i missed a day i felt absolutely awful.

Every person is different.

I agree though, never heard of this 3 times a day nonsense, that would be an absolute nightmare if you was not getting it home with you and you was working, you would never hold a job having to vanish at least twice a day or maybe 3 times depending on your chemist open hours and your works hours. Imagine working at the other side of town and your chemist being an hour away on the bus, you would not hold a job with that kind of expectations.

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I agree though, never heard of this 3 times a day nonsense, that would be an absolute nightmare if you was not getting it home with you and you was working, you would never hold a job having to vanish at least twice a day or maybe 3 times depending on your chemist open hours and your works hours. Imagine working at the other side of town and your chemist being an hour away on the bus, you would not hold a job with that kind of expectations.


Do people expect methadone users to hold down a job? I would have thought that if you are addicted to heroin so badly that you have to reply on a Government funded scheme to keep you out of the hands of drug dealers, you are not really thinking about working for a living.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAIJ3Rh5Qxs

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The effects of drugs can vary a lot between users. So I see no reason to doubt any of the dosages unless you are familiar with each methadone program in the UK at the time the movie was set in.

It doesn't seem strange at all to give someone 3 doses a day, to get an effect that is more like a sustain released pill. I'm not sure if or when something like methadone SR came out. Plus, there could have been non-pharmaceutical reasons to require someone to show up at a clinic more than once a day. And, like you said, if he wasn't on the correct dose, he wouldn't have been a happy camper.

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Methadone is a sustained release, that's the whole point.
I have been on and off the programme (mainly on) for 20 years, and I have done a lot of reading up about the drug, as well as asking my various prescribing Gp's about it and, of course, my personal experience.
Methadone has a much longer half life than herion (which is why it's easier to hold down a straight job whilst on it)- whether on not it's in tablet form or liquid makes no difference to its half life.
The only time people break up their dose in when they are on a dangerously high dose (usually over 160ml a day as we measure it here is Australia).
It's kind of frustrating because no move that I have ever seen about heroin has been in any way accurate as to the actual effects of the drug on the body and lifestyle (for example, Requiem for a Dream is a shocker, no matter how shocking it may seem, and has very little to do with the real life of a daily addict).

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I've been around meth/narcotics addicts since the early 70s and have never heard of an addict going to 'the clinic' more than once per day for their methadone. I think the
heroin 'naive' folks who made the film assumed that like a bad heroin habit in which the addict has to 'get off' (get high) up to 3 times per day to keep withdrawals at bay, methadone was the same. I would venture to bet that the vast majority of movie goers who saw this film, along with the films actors, editors etc etc have no personal experience using heroin and didn't notice the snafu either. The addicts I knew in the greater NYC area, reported to the local meth clinic at 6 am every morning for their dose. They had to drink the dose in front of one of the clinicians too and like others have mentioned, were only allowed to take it with them was for weekend dosing when the clinic was closed.
I wound up in a conversation with a few of the guys who drove to the clinic together each morning (car pool) about this movie. One guy pointed out that the scene when the one female (mom I believe ?) was injected her breathing/respirations increases quite a bit - so much so that her chest was heaving. He said that no way that happens, ones breathing slows down as the drug travels through the body.
Very few movies/TV shows have actors who pull off a true to life 'junkie nod', manner of speaking etc. If you've ever tried to have a conversation with someone 'high' on heroin,
you will never forget the particular way they all talk. It can be VERY frustrating conversation !!

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It certainly depends on the person. Weight and male/female also makes a huge difference. Everyone's tolerance is different.

"The Lord Commander of Kingsguard Gabste of house Musgood"

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Methadone is a total rip off by the drug companies ---- The government does not pay for cases and cases of O'Doul's to give to alcoholics, the government should not buy Methadone -- may for 7 days for withdrawal -- that's it

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Great plan there Dave. Complete stop of Methadone prescriptions so we can then have all the addicts out robbing houses and stealing from pensioners to get Smack money to stave off the rattle.

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No, they should get clean instead of being used as fodder for the drug companies

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the rattle is gone after 7 days. People make such a big deal of heroin withdrawal. Once you are off you are off

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