WTF??? I guess people forgot about slavery??? I guess people forgot about all of the black women who were raped by their white slave owners??? And even after that white on black rape still occurred especially during the Jim Crow era (and still does today). It's just swept under the rug or the rape isn't reported.
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WTF??? I guess people forgot about slavery??? I guess people forgot about all of the black women who were raped by their white slave owners???
Did you seriously bring up events from 150 to 200 years ago to make a point to refute a belief that "white on black rape is rare"? As do you, I too doubt it's rare now-a-days but for crying out loud, using your logic I guess we could say that execution by guillotine is not rare and that neither is death by crucifiction.
Did you seriously bring up events from 150 to 200 years ago to make a point to refute a belief that "white on black rape is rare"? As do you, I too doubt it's rare now-a-days but for crying out loud, using your logic I guess we could say that execution by guillotine is not rare and that neither is death by crucifiction.
I also brung up the Jim Crow era and the Civial Rights Movement which wasn't that long ago!!!!
Jim Crow timeframe was 45 to 135 years ago. Civil Rights Movement was in its' peak 50-60 years ago.
Yep, huge difference from the slave owner days of 175-200 years ago.
Again, I DO agree with you...I am on your side (really, I am!!), it's likely NOT rare in today's world. But yikes, come on, your points are not going to convince anyone by bringing up an era that happened before man walked on the moon. (not that I myself have ANYTHING to bring up to help prove your point).
A group of white people gang-raped a black woman named Megan Williams. It was around 2006. Cases like that are usually swept under the rug. If Montel Williams or other black activists didn't bring it up i wouldn't have known about it.
shareI just read up about Megan Williams and it says the claims of rape were false.
as for rapists, whoever they are, they're scum.
The Devil is at work in most of this world I think.
I just read up about Megan Williams and it says the claims of rape were false.
Williams said herself she made the whole thing up. She admitted the only true thing was her boyfriend hit her and she wanted to get even with him. The case was also widely covered by CNN, the Associated Press and many other national news organizations. Maybe you only watched the Montel Williams show back then?
There was also overwhelming evidence in the Tawana Brawley case that she made her story up. So much so that not only were all charges dropped but one of the defendants sued for defamation and won, yet people still want to believe her story.
And whatever happened to Crystal Gail Mangum? All cases that were widely covered, caused a bunch of uproar in the media because race was the main issue, and each turned out to be false.
OJ.
There was an overwhelming amount of physical evidence.Well that would make it the first ever. Short of video evidence it's almost impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that intercourse is forced.
"black activists"?
Don't you mean "race hustlers"?
And yes, in the PRESENT DAY, black on white rape is FAR more prevalent than white on black. Look up the stats if you don't believe me. Or you can just continue to draw your conclusions from your "feelings".
Janet K, what exactly is the point you're trying to make ? Because that's not very clear.
Yes : in the past during slavery, Crowe era etc., there was white on black rape. I don't think people are denying or minimizing that, so no reason for you to explode.
No : today it is much less so, according to the statistics (it still happens, but it's certainly not a practice anymore like it was during slavery f.e.) So it seems that indeed today it is rare (especially when compared to the black on white rapes).
I thought you would be pleased with that, because that's a good thing, right ?
If you disagree and think that today white on black rape isn't rare, fine, but then you have to come up with something better than "stories that are swept under the rug or not reported", because that's simply not very convincing.
And don't gimme this ridiculous comparison between "white on black rapes" vs. "black on white rapes" during the centuries...
I hope the point you're trying to make is not that whites during the course of history have committed a higher number of rapes then blacks, because that's - apart from difficult to prove (who's been counting in the Kivu the last century ?)- also a pretty dubious point.
After all : what if you're right ? Is that supposed to be a justification for black on white rapes ?
As your President wisely states : rape is rape, let's not slice it up and come up with all kinds of categories where one rape is more "legitimate" than the other.
I don't think it's rare at all, but it is a little hard to get completely accurate statistics on rape, when most times it isn't reported, no matter the race of anyone involved.
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http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=2218
United States Dept of Justice 2008 Rape/sexual assault statistics - Table 42
White victims = 117,640...White rapists = 74.9% Black rapists = 16.4%
Black victims = 46,580...White rapists = 0.0%* Black rapists = 74.8%
*Estimate is based on 10 or fewer sample cases.
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Did you not read the Dept of Justice statistics I cited?
shareDid you not read the Dept of Justice statistics I cited?
Oh, and please, if i have to hear about the past being the past one more time, i'm going to explode. So using your logic, i guess i should tell my grandmother and some of my other older family members who were raped by white men to get over their rape right? You all want me to tell them that??
shareThe facts are in the DOJ statistics I provided a link to. No amount of goofy ranting by you can change those documented facts.
shareThere are also documented facts from history too. Educate yourself instead of just posting a link, read some damn books. Know your damn history. You're clearly in denial and delusional as hell. You're going on my ignore list. So don't even bother replying back to me. Goodbye.
shareI provided a link to recent statistical, factual evidence collected by the FBI and the United States Department of Justice. The crime statistics show, year after year, that black males commit about 33% of all the rapes in the United States even though black adult males are only about four or five percent of the population.
Black males are far, FAR more likely to commit rape than white males are. Inter-racially, blacks rape between 20,000 and 30,000 white females every year while white males rape black women at a rate of consistently ten or fewer each year.
I'm not raving about some unnamed source; I'm providing documentation of what's happening right now that anyone can read and confirm themselves. There's someone delusional and in denial on this thread but it's not me.
I just watched this movie on TNT and I too thought of the DOJ statistics. Janet K keeps using the fact that something happened in the past to argue that it is happening in the present, but statistically, it isn't. That doesn't mean it didn't happen in a different era, but it isn't happening now. Just like we used to have chattel slavery on plantations, but we don't now. Saying that we don't have slavery now doesn't mean we didn't have it 200 years ago.
The 2008 statistics make sense, because rape is about power. Politicians keep telling black men that they have no power. Raping white women is one way to show power.
Lets try to look at it in perspective. Back when white on black rape was popular, white men had so much power over black women that they could rape them with impunity. Today the power of individual whites over blacks has been replaced by the structural power of white society over black society. Blacks are no longer slaves, they are now second class citizens (with many well-known exceptions, yet the generality still holds). One could argue blacks now have every opportunity to succeed, yet the reality is that only a relative handful do, and social mobility in the US is now at an all-time low among all races, both in our history and among other 1st world nations. Statistically it's highly unlikely for anyone to break out of the class they were born into. Even if an individual black does succeed, the average poor white man would not trade places with a him since his overall circumstances would still be regarded as highly unfavorable (though sports and entertainment figures may be loved and admired from afar). The vast majority of blacks have no choice but to continue playing the same role their ancestors have for generations. Basically black women are still getting raped every day by white society in a metaphorical sense since they are forced to play a role - that of second class citizen - whites regard with revulsion, and this role is reinforced through the perpetuation of western standards of beauty in the mass media which are then reflected in these rape statistics indicating that white men generally don't find black women attractive enough to rape (not exactly something to rejoice about).
Leave the gun, take the cannoli...
You say that white slave owners raped black slave women because they had the power to do so, which I agree with. But then you relate modern rape to attractiveness, which I do not agree with. Rape is not about attractiveness, it is about power. The Boston Strangler raped a number of middle aged and elderly women. Saying that rape is about attractiveness just perpetuates the stereotype that women are "asking" to be raped. I also don't know the basis for generalizing that in the present day, even poor whites are not envious of blacks. I know many whites who are afraid of crossing a black person in the workplace for fear of engendering an EEO charge. Poor whites aren't given the opportunities in education and in the workplace that blacks are. You can have a black sorority, but not a white one. Institutionalized racism against blacks is long gone. Whites with guilt about racism bend over backwards to offer opportunities to minorities. The main reason that many blacks don't succeed is because the race hustlers and the people they grew up with tell them that they can't. And yes, if you are growing up in a violent or drug-infested home, you aren't going to be able to study. But that type of home is where many whites grow up, and the media doesn't focus on that. But if a poor black child studies hard and tries to succeed, the educators are waiting with open arms to offer them scholarships. Look at Pres. Obama - he was smoking dope at Occidental but somehow ended up at Columbia & Harvard Law. A white guy from a broken home who was smoking dope and had mediocre grades wouldn't get into Harvard Law.
shareThe fact that people think they know exact number how many times rapes have happened and by race is a riot.
Most rapes are not reported. Also, most rapes happen between people that know one another (date rape).
Yes, those white slaveowners raping blacks sure a a huge problem nowadays.
Seriously, how long will this " Da white man made us slaves 200 years ago" argument continue? Get with the times. Try walking through a black part of town as a white guy at night. This isnt 1860. Times have changed.
I just watched this movie on TNT and I too thought of the DOJ statistics. Janet K keeps using the fact that something happened in the past to argue that it is happening in the present, but statistically, it isn't. That doesn't mean it didn't happen in a different era, but it isn't happening now. Just like we used to have chattel slavery on plantations, but we don't now. Saying that we don't have slavery now doesn't mean we didn't have it 200 years ago.
The 2008 statistics make sense, because rape is about power. Politicians keep telling black men that they have no power. Raping white women is one way to show power.
A white guy from a broken home who was smoking dope and had mediocre grades wouldn't get into Harvard Law.
Most rapes are not reported.Silliest thing I've ever heard. So the statistics lie because rape is underreported. But by that logic, if 50% of the rapes were white on black violence and 50% were black on white violence, wouldn't roughly the SAME percentage of each demographic be underreporting keeping the ratio the same? Your argument makes absolutely no sense unless you're arguing that black women are consistently raped by white men and are afraid to report it while white women are raped by black men and almost always report it.
Also, most rapes happen between people that know one another (date rape)And this affects the ratio how? Because a ton of white women date black men but black women don't date white men at all? If you really think disparities in interracial dating account for the enormous percentage difference I'm not sure what to tell you. share
You are a moron and if you call yourself a woman then shame on you.
sharehttp://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/65775-racially-motivated-prison-rapes/
http://abcnews.go.com/US/gang-rape-charges-18-men-sparks-racial-tensions/story?id=13095476
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VexdIOKZM0
Yes, those white slaveowners raping blacks sure a a huge problem nowadays.
Seriously, how long will this " Da white man made us slaves 200 years ago" argument continue? Get with the times. Try walking through a black part of town as a white guy at night. This isnt 1860. Times have changed.
I imagine it's no rarer than any other type of rape, it just often doen't get reported on the news which leads people to believe it's rare. Infact cases of black women being raped rarely makes the news at all.
Seriously if I'm wrong about this please correct me, I am very receptive to feedback. I just can't remember the last time I saw report of any black woman being sexually assaulted on either local or national news. There are two possible explainations for this that I am aware of; a) black women in america never get raped b) discriminatory news media practices.
"Shame on you for making me use my rape-whistle in a non-rape situation!"
Ignoring the DOJ statistics in favor of "imagining" that white on black is common in the present day is just not persuasive. I'm stunned that we have people who are not rejoicing at the 0.0% stats. I guess it's easier than recognizing that people don't succeed because they are not trying to succeed. Or acknowledging that Tawana Brawley and Crystal Gail Mangum are the liars they were proven to be. Good grief, look at the supportive reception Ms. Mangum got when she told her story. A white D.A. and half the Duke faculty were willing to hide or ignore evidence to try to support her claim. I'd say there is every incentive in the present day for black women raped by white men to report the crime.
shareI wasn't trying to persuade anyone . I was just giving my own perspective.
"Shame on you for making me use my rape-whistle in a non-rape situation!"
Please, bringing up ancient history from 50 and 150 years ago to "prove" your point? Lame.
White on black sexual assault is extremely rare, black on white, not so much. Look it up. And how is it whites fault if the crime isn't reported? Maybe the "no snitch" rule is going a bit too far?