At the point when everyone hates her and she's about to jump into the bathtub I think it sord of reflects commiting suicide she doesnt come up out of the water for awhile and when she does shes breathing heavily and everyones against her
not saying like it all has a meaning cuz i love this movie but i mean what do you think?
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It's definately showing that she's thinking about suicide. She wasn't just trying to wash off the paint because no one takes a bath with all their clothes on. And saying that it does have anything to do with suicide doesn't say anything against the movie--it's a fact extreme bullying does that to some kids.
shareI never really thought of suicide when Harriet jumps into the bathtub. Although she stays underwater for quite awhile, to me, it always felt like she was only heavily reflecting on the whole situation, and realizing just how bad it had all spun out of control. I always just saw it more as the huge turning point for Harriet. It's almost like the very opposite of suicide for her, because that's the moment she decided to not just give up or to endure her classmates bullying, any longer. Instead, that's the catalytic moment she decided to go fully against her former friends, (she angrily scrubs off her friendship tattoo) and to proactively start taking revenge on all of them. In a way, she actually came alive with a renewed ambition.
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Also in the scene before she gets the paint thrown on her and the kids are snickering about doing it, Harriet is looking at a book with these disturbing death photos.
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I never saw it that way, I think PaintingTheRoses has the right idea. Either way it was a remarkably well done scene. That shot of her falling into the water sticks well in my mind.
I don't feel that that's too morbid though for the kids movie. Obviiously that idea wouldn't be apparent to many young viewers (it didn't to me when I was young), and I think the movie as a whole provided a wonderful outlook on living life in an unconventional way.
Ive taken a bath with my clothes on... I always just thought she was washing the paint off, but it could mean that also. But drowning yourself is a really hard way to kill yourself unless you can't swim or tie a cement block to yourself.
Why as why when why not is a better question?
I just assumed she jumped in with her clothes on because the director liked that idea for a shot but realized a naked 12 year old wouldn't fit in a kids movie...
WE'RE GONNA DIE AND I'M WEARING MY MOTHER'S UNDERWEAR!!!
I didnt get that message at all..I've read the book about a million times and even then she just gets in the tub with all the clothes on..Most likely shes so upset and just at the point she doesnt even care whether her clothes are on or not. In the movie she just jumps in but I dont think it has anything to do with suicide, who hasnt been in the tub and in an aweful mood and just gone underwater for as long as you could....I know I have..Its kind of relaxing..But thats just my opinion :)
shareI thought the morbid part in the movie was when she said the kid with the purple socks should hang himself. that is harsh for a little kid to take in..or even for a little kid to say.
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i thought of it as a reflection moment... despite the fact that she has all her clothes on, being underwater can be silent... she needed time to think.
when i was younger, i used to put a pillow over my head to silence things... people use that as a tactic for homicide... but i was doing it to silence the screaming in my mind
its all about the perspective that you look at it from
I never thought of it as suicide. Her classmates poured the blue paint all over her, so she dove into the water, and you see the blue coming off of her into the water. I look at it as Harriet "washing away" the ugliness of her classmates.
shareI remember seeing this movie in the theatre with my neighbour (who was only 3 at the time). I was 10 and I remember thinking she was going to kill herself and I remember being scared how to tell her why Harriet killed herself...yet again, I was kind of a dark child, so maybe that's why I thought she was going to kill herself...
"This scar is a fleck on my porcelain skin, tried to reach deep but you couldn't get in..."
if you want to look at the scene in a metaphorical sense, i think it makes more of an impact to think of it as kind of a baptism, like she is reborn. she goes into the tub, frustrated and surrounded by all the hate and ugliness around her, and as the blue paint [representing the hate] washes off, she is becoming a new harriet, who isn't going to take the abuse from her classmates any longer. when she's out of the tub, she's taken on a new persona and she is ready to kick some ass and not let her classmates bring her down.
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I'm definitely inclined to agree with you. Also, after rewatching it as an adult, it makes sense why they would have the "to be or not to be" soliloquy read right afterward. It has everything to do with suicide versus resilience, doesn't it? I love this movie.
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Exactly. If you know Hamlet at all you would know that speech is about suicide. This film is way deeper than i thought as a kid.
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