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This is what I miss about the '90s.


Ahhh, the 1990's. The Cold War was over and the U.S. military was seen as just a collection of slackers with nothing worthwhile to do. The biggest concern of our nation was what our President was doing with his interns. The internet-driven "new economy" was going to make us a nation of billionaires. Grunge rock lived.

But a dark shadow was gathering in Mordor...(whoops, wrong plot line). The Soviet Union's collapse had left a power vacuum and the former Soviet states were selling weapons and fissionable matter to anyone who could trade a couple of cases of vodka. 'Rogue states' began to posture themselves to defy the sleeping giant. Muslim extremists became increasingly outraged by America's decadence and our ever more vulgararized culture. Behind the curtain a gaunt, bearded figure named Ossama bin Laden began to formulate a plan.

So, 20th cent. Fox decides to make a comedy about it. Terrorists are buying weapons? America's Cold War military is unfit to counter the looming threat? Well, what if the Navy did a wargame to simulate a terrorist submarine's attack on American ports? Have the skipper be a Clinton-esque poster boy for reckless behavior, and give him a crew of misfits from affirmative-action America with gender/racial equality and family therapy for all.

Could this movie be made in the 2000's? HECK NO! If you are portraying the military, it better be SERIOUSLY. In fact, I don't think too many military movies have come out lately... that is always a bad sign, same thing happened in Vietnam.

And, can our rebel captain, his rust-bucket sub and outcast crew surpass the best the modern navy has to throw at them? If they do, he wins a new command and we can cheer for them all, but what does his success mean? That terrorists can indeed strike the US at will???

And all this in a *comedy*? Oh, how I miss the '90s.

One modernist note I detected concerns Harry Dean Stanton's memorable performance as 'Chief Engineer Lt. Howard.' This character is obviously the first victim of the military's 'stop-loss' program. You may recall that he never wears a uniform during the film, just a beat-up old yachting cap. Although it is never explained verbally, he is obviously retired but has been temporarily called back to service because nobody in the new navy remembers how to run a diesel-electric sub.

Some day when and if I have kids, they are going to ask me what it was like to live in an age when an unattended suitcase was not an object of fear, when a man could retain his shoes and his dignity when entering an airport, when 911 was just the phone number you dialed in an emergency.

And I shall put 'Down Periscope' into the DVD player and let them learn.

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"the U.S. military was seen as just a collection of slackers with nothing worthwhile to do. The biggest concern of our nation was what our President was doing with his interns."

so nothing has really changed :)

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There is a lot that you don't see in movies anymore. There hasn't been a decent military-based comedy since Sgt. Bilko, Down Periscope, and Major Payne. And when was the last time there was a good slasher flick? None of this supernatual White Noise or The Ring type thing. Just a psychotic human being. I miss the good old days. :) I'm only 18 so I don't really have any good old days, but whatever...

The 90's were definately great. I love VH-1's "I Love the 90's" There is so much great stuff that I had forgotten about. Things are too complicated now. I want light happy movies (or kill everyone movies). :)

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i miss the 90s. I hate the 00s. The music sucks and every other movie is based on a video game. At least i have my pac cds.... And will someone finally end american idol,I could be watching a die hard movie on fox instead of that teeny bopper crap!!!

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If you want a film that would NEVER be made this day and age think no further than "Fight Club".
That ending nowadays would get people screaming "bloody murder"! :D

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Really? Funny, I always despised the 90s. Especially the music and the political scene.
The best music acts were the holdovers from the 70s and 80s like the Stones, Aerosmith, U2 etc.
Can't say that the '00s have been a barrel of laughs, what with going on 4 years of almost unremitting warfare, terrorism and natural disasters.
And yes, American Idol....well, "reality" TV in general needs to go the way of grunge.

GREAT post by the way Alan Smithee, couldnt have said it any better myself

For England, for home, and for the prize!

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ipacac22,
I am not sure who you mean by "OP" but I agree with your post wholeheartedly.




For England, for home, and for the prize!

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Wow ipacac22, fascism (and fascists like you) are really cool. What would we do without you (and the state) to tell us what is funny? I had no idea that the military gave birth to us all, fed us and clothed us. How do people in other countries live without the U.S. military? Please let me know how I can donate some acid to you so you can start your executions.

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Ipacac:

You should check out the Big Lebowski. You remind me a lot of the Walter character.

...and do me a favor, Fink:
throw it hard!

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You've got two options... take remote control in hand and do one of the following...

1) Turn the TV off
2) Change the station

It's called freedom of choice and it's one of the principles your country (I'm Canadian) was founded on... look it up once you're finished burning all the books.

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Alan Smithee wrote:

One modernist note I detected concerns Harry Dean Stanton's memorable performance as 'Chief Engineer Lt. Howard.' This character is obviously the first victim of the military's 'stop-loss' program. You may recall that he never wears a uniform during the film, just a beat-up old yachting cap. Although it is never explained verbally, he is obviously retired but has been temporarily called back to service because nobody in the new navy remembers how to run a diesel-electric sub.

Very interesting indeed. About fifteen years ago a small town in Iowa was trying to renovate a donated 1950s-vintage diesel-electric locomotive. They called on an old submariner since the Fairbanks-Morse diesel engines were virtually identical.

-"BB"-

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We just got a new-hire in our parts maintenance section, smart-as-a-whip (early twenties) young lady, who took to our computerized system like a duck to water. We wound up together in one of the older warehouse buildings the other day trying to track down some lost part orders, which we evidentially did find. Once we did, I told her to go into the warehouse's office (just a room with a phone and a desk)and call the boss to inform him that his parts were on their way, while I loaded the stuff onto the yard truck.

I was almost done loading when she leaned out of the office door and gestured me over. In a voice almost a whisper she said :"I'm sorry, I don't know how this works," all the while pointing to the ROTARY phone. I showed her, all the while praying to God to not let me have a stroke from the exertion of not busting a gut laughing.

It's amazing how much that we remember and take for granted, is totally unknown to the current generations.

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I just thought of something going along with this. Wasn't Red Dawn made during the Cold War?? Nobody would EVER make a movie of Iraqi's invading the US these days. (Ofcourse Iraq is nothing like the USSR of the 80's, but you know what I mean)

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and 4 years after this post... they're re-making Red Dawn :P

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And four years after this post, most people laughed at how bad it was. Well, those who saw it anyway.

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"My brain is better than EVERYBODY'S!"---Sheldon Cooper, The Big Bang Theory

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["Some day when and if I have kids, they are going to ask me what it was like to live in an age when an unattended suitcase was not an object of fear, when a man could retain his shoes and his dignity when entering an airport, when 911 was just the phone number you dialed in an emergency.
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I've met people my age (20 years old) who don't know how to use a record player, 5 1/4" floppy disks and even in one case a Cassette deck (not the car version).

it wouldnt surprise me since Diesel submarines werent used in 30 years.




Buffalo soldiers is a recent movie which i feel is suited to this decade as Down Periscope was last.

It consists of bent soldiers profitteering from the US military, ordering bulk industrial grade materials Cleaning food etc and reselling it.
It doesnt stop there US Guns ammunition and vehicle is fair game. On top of that brewing illicit drugs in US military facilities.

The only enemy left is ourself was the tagline of the film.


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I've met people my age (20 years old) who don't know how to use a record player, 5 1/4" floppy disks and even in one case a Cassette deck (not the car version).


Well, I walked into BestBuy the other day and was asking about a PS/2 mouse. The kids working there did not know what a ps/2 mouse was. I couldn't get it through their heads that I was NOT talking about Playstation. I left and went to Radio shack, and that guy didn't know what I was talking about either.

I thought computers still came with PS/2 mice!


...and do me a favor, Fink:
throw it hard!

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Just be thankful you didnt ask for a serial Mouse

you may have got more than you bargained for

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Ever heard of "Muster"?

If I recall correctly, ALL of the men were named and their ranks stated, right before they got on the boat.

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Amen to that post. I remember the 90s as a time of innocence; when I was in my 20s and didn't have any real responsibilities.

Fast forward ten years and now I have a wife and family, and a little event called 9/11 changed this country forever. The days of innocence are over...

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Good God! I'm getting old. I see the 80s as being a time of innocence and the 90s when everything went to hell in a handbasket. It's only gone downhill from there.

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I miss the days when you would see an unattended bag in a train station or airport and think to yourself "i'm having that"

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this is the only time that i could bear with kelsey grammer haha...
+ jim carreys ex wife is in it.

very very funny little movie,just saw it for the third time yesterday.

rob schneider is so fun in this.

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