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Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When that character wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man. And it is in that characteristic Superman stands alone. Superman didn't become Superman. Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears - the glasses, the business suit - that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent. He's weak... he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n2UyctImKs

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Yes, yes, we've all seen Kill Bill. And that's the old Superman. The revamped stories have Superman as a disguise. After all, he grew up as Clark Kent. Superman came later as a way to let him have a normal life.

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Yes, i agree, but it's still a good insight on a complex character that is Superman.
By the way, Both kill bills sucked in my opinion. Certainly not Tarantino's best.





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That's an interpretation, but not one I agree with. Superman was born Kal El, with the potential to be Superman on a planet with a yellow sun. However, he grows to maturity as Clark Kent, so that is his chief identity and how he sees himself. He knows Kal El is his birth name, but the only parents he ever knew were Jonathan and Martha Kent, and he is their son Clark. Superman is a name he uses to operate as the world's protector, if for no other reason than to protect friends and family from reprisals. The timid personality (pre-Crisis) that Clark presents to the world is his mask. Superman is Clark with that mask stripped away; the man he was inside the privacy of the Kent home. He uses the name Superman and the uniform to set himself apart from Clark, as protection for those around him for whom he cares. Really, following Tarrantino's logic, there is no reason for him to be Clark, since the Kents are gone. If Clark was Superman's critique of the human race, why would he spend so much time doing mundane things and asking people to consider him just another man? It extends to his Justice League colleagues. There (again, pre-Crisis) he is always called Clark, not Superman (except in public), nor Kal El. Clark; it's his name and his identity.

No, Superman is Clark Kent when he wears a suit and tie and when he wears the red and blue costume. He is an adopted son of the human race and considers himself more human than Kryptonian (as illustrated in multiple stories involving other Kryptonians). As with many adopted children, his origin did not determine his outcome; rather, it was determined by his adopted family environment. The Kents gave him a loving household, where honesty, compassion, caring, and service to others were stressed as virtues. These values shaped him into the hero he became far more than the powers unleashed by the yellow sun and his alien DNA.

"Fortunately, Ah keep mah feathers numbered for just such an emergency!"

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Actually, it's been established for a while that Batman sees "Bruce Wayne" as the disguise, not the other way around.

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'Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man is actually Peter Parker. When that character wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become Spider-Man.'

Agreed.

'And it is in that characteristic Superman stands alone. Superman didn't become Superman. Superman was born Superman.'

No Superman was born Kal-El.

'When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent.'

That's true of the original 1938 Superman, the Earth-2/Pre-Crisis Superman, the Earth-1/Pre-Crisis Superman.

The *opposite* is true from the Post-Crisis Superman, Post-Zero-Hour Superman and the current DC New 52 Superman.

'His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears - the glasses, the business suit - that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent. He's weak... he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race.'

True for the Earth-1/Pre-Crisis Superman. Not any more.

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Screw Kill Bill and screw the fantards who have the pre-Crisis Superman shoved up their rectum.

I'm Heather Langenkamp's husband in another universe.

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