Seiya's gender is a female, but on earth she uses a male form as a disguise.
Seiya's sexual orientation is homosexual, which means sexual attraction to the same gender. Seiya is a female and have a love interest in other females (sailormoon)
AMERICA HATES ANYTHIGN THAT IS GENDER-BENDING, GAY, LESBIAN, TRANSEXUAL..SO AMERICA BANNED THE SAILMOOON STARS.
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sure, some things are changing, but we still have a long way to go. You dont even live in america so shut up.
many gays are still being murdered and killed. Discrimination still exists. in regular life..in work place. Gays walking down the street where people throw bottles at them and yell slurs at them. Gays cant get married. millions of people are still in the closet afraid of coming out to the hatred and intolerance and bigotry in america. A gay woman went to the doctor and they didnt even want to treat her because the doctor was against homosexuality. etc. Gays are not treated as equal citizens. far from it. A gay couple cant get married , so they cant get basic citizen protections and cant even protect their children.
Unless youre gay, you wont understand all that is going on. Unless you study human sexuality and gender issues, you dotn know what i'm talking about.
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Gay marriage is being legalized now, fortunately.
shareOk, I know this post is old, but I wanted to reply and give my opinion on it. ;) Bear with me as this might get confusing. ;)
All of the Starlights are WOMEN when they transform. They are WOMEN in their true form.
However, they are MEN in human form. They become MEN on Earth, when they are not transformed into their true incarnations.
Therefore, they are NOT LESBIANS. They are TRANS SEXUALS. They are BOTH MEN and WOMEN, they simply can change into each.
But again, it is safe to assume that when they transform, they can be considered lesbians, but Seiya, when in human form, is a man and is not homosexual in that form.
Am I making any sense? :p
*edited to add: This is according to the show, not the manga. In the manga, they stayed women, I believe.*
I've had all the Enlightenment I could use. ~Methos
I <3 Joaquin Phoenix.
Listen, Unlike words such as homosexual/heterosexual, the word TRANSEXUAL DOES NOT refer to a sexual orientation!!
Transexual refers a person's gender. a man or woman who feels like they have been born into the wrong gender and as a result, many transexuals do get surgery to change into the other gender.
***LESSON OF THE DAY:
GENDER: Male, Female, Transexuals, Hermphrodites
SEXUAL ORIENATION: Homosexual, Heterosexual, Asexual, Bisexual
SIEYA'S GENDER:
She is not a transexual because she is not in a state of betweens. The male form was only used as a magical earthly diguise.
Sieya's is a female.
SIEYA's SEXUAL ORIENTATIOIN:
Mostly likely she is homosexual, which means attraction to the same sex. She is female and she has sexual attractions towards other females (sailormoon)
Um...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transexual
BTW, it is not really a 'disguise'. In a way, yes. But Seiya and the other Starlights actually BECOME male on Earth, which is exactly what I said. I never said it was orientation. It is gender. They change genders even if their 'true' form is female. Thus, that makes them Transsexual, though the true definition is bent, somehwat, in this case, for in real life, no one can actually change their gender at whim. ;)
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Which also means that Seiya is HETEROSEXUAL in MALE FORM and HOMOSEXUAL in FEMALE FORM. The Starlights are not one or the other in the end. They are able to be both, true form or not.
I've had all the Enlightenment I could use. ~Methos
I <3 Joaquin Phoenix.
No as stated before in trivia and in wikipedia that Naoko Takeuchi created the Starlights as FEMALES weither in warrior or civilian mode.
She was annoyed when Toei took the starlights and gave them male bodies while they were on Earth. Thus confusing everyone.
So in answer Seiya is a lesbian.
No, because this is not the manga. It doesn't matter what Naoko Takeuchi first made them. In this version, the Toei anime, they are females that transform into males, thus making them trans-sexual.
It shouldn't confuse anyone that is able to differentiate between the manga and the anime versions of the story.
Actually, I don't personally believe they are transexual. They are men (sex, not gender) when they are in their Earth forms, if you will, and women when they are in their starlight forms. As you see in their transformations, they have the anatomy of men before they transform. So I disagree that they are transexual; that doesn't actually make sense whatsoever. If you consider their true forms their starlight forms - which it obviously is - you could argue that Seiya/star fighter is a lesbian but we don't actually know that either. Generally, things aren't that straight forward just like Usagi's feelings for Seiya once she discovers her true identity.
This is actually what I loved about this season more than anything and made Seiya's relationship with Usagi all that much more interesting/awesome.
"A man writing an opera about a woman? Oh Sirrah, how deliciously absurd!"
I can agree with what you say. :) I disagree about Seiya being a lesbian, however, because in order to be a lesbian, Seiya would have to be female all the time. Even if Seiya's true form is that of a female, she is able to actually transform into a male, with as you say, the actual anatomy of a man.
Hmm...it's hard to really categorize, isn't it? :p Maybe this would be closer?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigender
From the link you posted: "gender identity and sexual orientation are independent". You keep mentioning gender. Sexual orientation is who you have sex with and gender is a whole other deal. Bigender is an interesting suggestion but it doesn't actually apply because it isn't just the Starlight's gender which changes. Considering they can transform into men complicates that idea. What I'm discussing is the sexual orientation of Seiya. Honestly, I don't really agree with what you said about Seiya needing to be a woman. If you believe that the Starlight form is their natural form (as women) and that their sexual preference isn't actually affected by their transformations into men then I think that the lesbian option is still a possibility. But, I think you're right to suggest that their transformations complicate things specifically because, obviously, that isn't plausible in reality.
However, like I said before, I don't think you can pin Seiya's sexual orientation down. All we can safely say is that Seiya is/was in love with Usagi. This isn't enough evidence to come to any conclusion where we can solidly label Seiya. At most I would argue that Seiya is queer (as opposed to straight) - queer being a term which is more inclusive of diverse identities (representing all sorts of sexual orientations and genders). I think queer is also a useful term in this situation because it describes things like this which are atypical of mainstream depictions, right?
That's my conclusion as of now but I'm still rethinking it while I watch the series again (...and again and again (I'm kind of addicted :P)).
"A man writing an opera about a woman? Oh Sirrah, how deliciously absurd!"
It's really complicated, isn't it? :p However, in terms of sexuality, I still firmly maintain that while in male form, Seiya cannot be defined as being a lesbian, as such would require "him" to be a "her". Now, when in female Starlight form, it can apply. I don't feel it really matters what Seiya's true form is, as again, when in male form, "he" has all the physical characteristics of masculinity. Sort of like....
If someone is born is a woman and is homosexual, but at one point has a sex change, I don't think they would still technically be considered a lesbian anymore, as they are now physically a male.
So, in conclusion, I think that while Seiya is in male form, if we presume by the attraction to Usagi, "he" is straight. But when he transforms into a female starlight, "she" is a lesbian.
I hope I got that out right. :p
I have always wondered if Seiya is actually male or female in her planet? Not much is said about where and what her planet is like.
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