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DAMMIT! Season 3 blows it again! (collateral damage spoilers)

posted 15 years ago by DingusStudley
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DAMMIT!

Sorry for knockin on season 3 again, I guess I could have put this in my other post, but this one pissed me off sooooo badly I felt it deserved it's own special rant here.

This episode was going GREAT! We saw just how devoted Peter is to Millennium(be nice if they explained why haha, but I'll be optimistic and hold out hope that questions will be answered later in the season). It was very interesting/entertaining seeing how Frank and Peter played off one another and interacted given all that's happened. And of course we got actual confirmation that the Millennium group is in fact a bad, if not outright evil organizatoin. After the initial two-parter this season, I was holding out hope that maybe there was some evil splinter group of Millennium causing trouble, releasing viruses, etc. But the events in this episode pretty much confirm that's not the case. I mean 2 separate incidents confirming the Millennium group is responsible for the virus confirm it. Plus, the fact that Watts is still in the group after taking part in testing the virus on troops in Desert Storm shows that Millennium on the whole is in on all of it. Otherwise they would have already discovered what had happened and dealt with those responsible.

I don't like the direction they've taken with the Millennium group, but that doesn't make it necessarily BAD. Just not what I would have wanted.

Anyways, everything is going smoothly, it's a quality episode. I'm super into it, wondering how it's all gonna end. And then, the kidnapper walks back into the room where he had Watt's daughter tied up, sees that she somehow got out of her straps(which in itself makes little sense), and then gets his neck snapped by a petite, female college freshman.

WOW!

WHAT WERE THE WRITERS THINKING!!!!!!!??? I should have been prepared for such idiocy. Afterall, in the initial kidnapping scene she did a surprising and borderline questionable job fending off the first attacker, but I chocked it up to her dad making sure she knew some very basic self defense moves, nothing unrealistic like enabling her to turn into Chuck Norris and snap necks, but just enough to get away you know. But then, towards the end of the episode she springs out from behind this kidnapper, a former member of army special forces, and in a split second, in a mere quick turn of her wrists, snaps his neck and kills him instantly. It was like she was squashing a fly, that quick, that amazingly easy.

Is this girl the toughest person in the history of the show? Frank can see what the killer sees, Lora Means saw angels which tipped her off that someone was going to die, Frank's daughter encounters dead folks in her dreams and may have some ability to foresee the future in said dreams. Is Peter Watt's daughter gifted too? Except physically instead of mentally? It seems like that's what this show has come to, it's about mutants, x-men style right? People have superpowers? There's no other explanation for the absurd, outrageous, lame and COMPLETELY unbelievable neck snapping in this episode. Why isn't the Millennium group sending her after all these criminals? She apparently is an unstoppable fighting machine, capable of breaking necks just as easily and efficiently as Chuck Norris does in his incredibly hokey/cheesy 80s action flicks.

I would apologize for ranting like this, but this was too dumb. I don't care. They had me on the edge of my seat in this episode, I was lovin it, and then BAM!, or should I say SNAP! They COMPLETELY RUIN it with the most absurd, unbelievable bit of bullshat in the history of this show.

Seriously, WOW! My mind is blown by this. I'm flabbergasted, mindboggled, confused, amazed(in the worst way possible), I have no more words. I'm in shock at how dumb this is.

What in the HELL happened to the writers of this show? This wasn't some bad plot that nothing could have saved. This wasn't bad dialog. This wasn't a case of them doing something that made little sense in the continuity of the show(although we did hear Frank mention that just 70 people died in the pacific northwest, but anyone who's willing to give seas 3 a chance should forgive that by this point in the season). This was a young, petite college coed snapping the neck of a man, and not some feeble elderly dude either, a young former special forces soldier. I simply can't get over how insanely stupid this was. They had a solid episode going, and apparently said to themselves, "hmm, this episode is going over far too well. We need to do something to completely ruin it. I think this episode is far too realistic, we don't want this show to have an semblance of realism anymore, let's be as over the top and goofy and unbelievable as possible! How bout we make Peter Watts daughter an expert in snapping necks in the most absurd way possible! YES! GREAT IDEA! MILLENNIUM!"

Is that what this show is about? That's seriously what it has become in season 3? SERIOUSLY!??!?!

They couldn't have had her get a hold of the kidnapper's gun and shoot him? That would have made sense given the fact that he had let his guard down. She couldn't have found a knife, a pair of sharp scissors maybe, ANYTHING? She couldn't have simply shoved him or knocked him over the head with something, causing him to fall and hit his head on the sharp corner of a desk/table, or fall onto a sharp object? No, she snapped his neck.

WOW.

[–] xmd-1 15 years ago

Hi

I understand your fustration Dingus, but I always thought of it as sthg Peter watts taught their daughters, at elats when they get mature enough - some art of fight. Which tells a lot about his charatcer - this is what i believe this issue was about, about peter not the daugther - that he was preparing in a sense their own family for sthg he knew would eventually happen and that he knew he would eventually endanger them, yet decided to work for the millennium group. Its about Peter bascially sacrificing his family.

But i do agree this was kind of ridiocoulus, tho the episode awesome.

[–] DingusStudley 15 years ago

"but I always thought of it as sthg Peter watts taught their daughters, at elats when they get mature enough - some art of fight."

This made sense during the initial kidnapping scene, as the girl obviously knows how to defend herself at least to the point where she can escape an attacker. But snapping necks? hahaha, that is something Peter Watts teaches all of his daughters once they're old enough? The art of snapping necks haha. It's hokey when Chuck Norris does it(although awesome, don't get me wrong), so to see it in a serious show like Millennium, being done by a petite female no less, sorry, there is no excuse or explanation for it. It's idiotic, it's dumb, it's wretched writing. It ruined the episode. Completely.

"hich tells a lot about his charatcer - this is what i believe this issue was about, about peter not the daugther - that he was preparing in a sense their own family for sthg he knew would eventually happen and that he knew he would eventually endanger them, yet decided to work for the millennium group. Its about Peter bascially sacrificing his family. "

Well yeah, that's what made the episode so good. Just made the neck snapping that much more frustrating and lame, ruined an otherwise great episode.

[–] SilentDues 15 years ago

Yeah, it did kinda hurt the episode. Though ya' know, in the end, I think of the best case scenario that maybe Peter was giving his daughter a type of training where she did become capable of breaking a man's neck. I mean you figure, if a 5 ft. skinny/limp man who's spent months in the mountains of Tibet can punch through a cinder block, why would this be much different? That's my interpretation anyway, she's obviously had appropriate training (or alternate steroids) for this type of action. No worries about Peter though, you may be pleasantly surprised to see where his character arc ends up before all is said and done. Also, make sure to watch the X-Files episode included on Season 3, "Millennium", after the series finale for a little extra closure.

Any Buffyverse comic that's post-"Not Fade Away" is non-canon, my PoV says.