Tonight's episode
Tomi lahren is on the daily show tonight this chick thinks trump is a god, I'm seriously hoping Trevor makes her feel bad because she is seriously naïve
shareTomi lahren is on the daily show tonight this chick thinks trump is a god, I'm seriously hoping Trevor makes her feel bad because she is seriously naïve
shareTrevor did a good job with her, but I still don't understand why she was on. She doesn't seem to realize that Glenn Beck, in creating The Blaze, modeled it after Fox News, and that she's where blonde bimbo meets stupidity, and really has nothing else to offer.
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"In your opinion?"
"Um, yes your honor, in my opinion."
It was a great interview. Trevor made mincemeat out of her, but she created the funny. He was actually surprised how funny it was. He needs to find a way to bring humor to the interviews himself.
shareThe interview wasn't meant to be funny Trevor actually wanted to show how ignorant she really is.
shareThat is a fairly easy thing to do. Comedy is hard and his show is a comedy. It's been an issue all along with his serious interviews. And since the election it's been a bit of an issue with the first segment as well, seems like he is doing straight news sometimes. I get that he is bewildered and in shock (Colbert is still there too, as am I), but he's got to bring the funny.
Trump makes this really difficult, I said a year ago he was death to satire. You can't get more unrealistic. Pointing out the irony of his campaigning on Clinton's GS speeches and then appointing a GS treasury sec is now the job of straight news. And that's just one of 100 examples. It's not funny to say Devos wants to destroy public education and make poor kids work, it's reality.
Noah has made his job a bit harder by moving away from Stewart's focus on Fox's ridiculousness. I don't know what he should do.
Going off that, it takes some talent to make Glenn Beck more likable since he's apologized for his anti-black remark and Obama fearmongering;whether it's sincere remains to be seen but it's better than her so far.
The villainy you teach me I will execute-and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.
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Don't be ignorant. BLM has never supported the looting of stores, and just because they see a looting and don't stop it does not mean they advocate for it. If you passed by a store in the process of being burglarized, and didn't immediately stop what you were doing to prevent this from happening, then by your logic I guess we can assume you're completely in support of that store being robbed.
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Barbie con: I'm in the lion's den.
Noah: Is that an Africa thing?
Um, no Trevor... it's a common, well-known phrase but good to see your "that's racist" faux outrage come out so quickly. Start as you mean to go on.
She's a child internetter. Low hanging fruit. You simply gave the silly girl oxygen whilst pretending that you were bringing down the KKK leadership. Well done.
That was his best line, that was funny! The one time he went for the joke and you rag on him. Yikes.
How is taking a well known (and entirely congruent) phrase and trying to construe it as evidence of racism... a joke? If it is a joke then it's at his own expense since he would essentially be admitting that he's already made up his mind about her.
If he lets her hang herself... THEN he can mock her as a racist.
If he mocks her as a racist before she's even said anything then... he's exposing himself as someone who doesn't want to listen to her -- only mock her.
The comment revealed that he was on the defensive from the word go and approached the interview as if he was dealing with the upper echelons of the KKK leadership -- he wasn't; he was dealing with 24 year old internetter.
Only she gained from this. Noah's squawking echo chamber viewers would whoop and cheer no matter what. She took his accusations and mockery on the chin. She just got more viewers.
He did not.
People who watch the show all the time know he does "Africa jokes". It can't be called a segment, but it gets a chyron, but you can't throw one of those up in the middle of an interview. So, of course it was a joke at his own expense (those are the best kind).
As far as the interview in totality, he handled it well and she stammered the same talking point instead of answering a question. He questioned her about her anger and by the end you saw it coming out, she didn't compose herself well.
My issues with the interview, as with all his political and author guests, as I previously posted is he doesn't make them funny enough. The audience will clap instead of laugh at points (this is something Bill Maher has talked about), but in this case they didn't even do that. This was new for the show, they were so horrified by what she was saying it was jeers.
In the lion's den is not an Africa thing though; it's a phrase you use when admitting you're in your opponents house/environment.
For Noah to try and make that a racist comment... exposed his predisposed position. He had clearly already concluded that she was a bigot.
That's fine but to insinuate it at the beginning, before the interview, makes him look like a bully.
He bested... a silly internet girl in her early 20's. All she had to do for the win... was take it and smile. And that's exactly what she did.
She gained something from the exposure alone. What did Noah gain?
He had previously done an entire segment exposing her as a bigot! With that out of the way, it was a great joke. He has gotten a lot of credit for this interview and she has been roundly blasted. Glen Beck has been forced to defend her. She didn't take it with a smile, her anger was quite apparent, though her tweet afterword was a commendable attempt.
shareNope. She smiled and allowed Noah's audience to dictate the interview's tone (which he also allowed).
She remained calm, made her points and let Noah mock her (which she clearly knew he would do anyway).
And again, how is... "is that an Africa thing" a great joke? It's the comment of a man who wants to see racism where there is, in fact, none.
I'd never heard of this girl before he brought her up. But like so many... I now do. She gained simply by being there and taking it on the chin.
Again I ask, what did he gain?
How is taking a well known (and entirely congruent) phrase and trying to construe it as evidence of racism... a joke? If it is a joke then it's at his own expense since he would essentially be admitting that he's already made up his mind about her.
Only she gained from this. Noah's squawking echo chamber viewers would whoop and cheer no matter what. She took his accusations and mockery on the chin. She just got more viewers.
He did not.
You're construing it in such a fashion. Had you cared for watching the whole interview, she posed the statement after being booed, and she was booed for her well known ignorance. A thousand or less subscriber on YouTube is a mere netizen with low exposure, she has a lot of listeners, after being brought to the center stage by Glenn Beck, so I suggest the apologist act of her being a nobody or of no significance should be dropped.
That's a statement you can neither support, deny or easily verify.
A right wing (more specifically, a Beck-type right wing) commentator on Blaze, not on a street corner. That you had not heard about her=/=nobody else has. She gained prominence on Facebook. As for the other part of your statement, if Bill O'Reilly had made that remark, he also would have laughed at Trevor's joke, because he does have a sense of humor, and the wit to defend himself (although he got into hot water over sending of Watters, who interviewed non-English speakers).
Ah, so you becoming her viewer is the verification, that a) she gains more viewers and b) Noah doesn't. It's called argumentation from personal incredulity, and is a logical fallacy. Here's why you can't verify your statement: viewership is only measured by the Nielsen rating, or DVR lists, and legal downloads. It's extremely hard to follow free platforms, and also to count viewership on a video from end to end, or just viewing snippets of it. Millennial broadcasters use channels, which are hard to put in valuable statistics, the closest would be reviewing subscriptions from this quarter year, except in the case of Facebook, you can subscribe and resubscribe any time with a dodgy use of multiple accounts, so only Blaze itself should be counted as a verifiable source.
Take a different idiom, where, for sh*ts and giggles she would admit to her destructive comments, and after being booed, she would have said "I feel like an elephant in a China shop". If the response is "Is that an Asian thing?" that's racist, but if the response is "Is the a Republican thing?" that's funny, since the elephant is their mascot. And yes, when a few days ago, Noah was out sick, they still went with Klepper saying the Africa joke, with the disclaimer afterwards, that "when you don't know your host will be sick and there's no time to change it". The joke here was twofold, the joke itself was funny, and how Klepper delivered it,that it wasn't he who was supposed to say it.
As they're a comedy show, jokes being made at the expense of the one being interviewed isn't new, and you should have remembered this being the reason why, when Pelosi was House majority leader, she banned Democrats from appearing on the Colbert Report. It is your right and your thing to like something or someone for agreeing with you (though you should be critical of that too, it's as American as apple pie), the problem is her being a mouthpiece for the idea that "I'm just saying what's on my mind, and unlike the other side, I don't get offended". She does as easily as you do. There was no need to oust her as a racist bigot as she already is by the admission of her own words. Heck, she compares something she doesn't like to an idea, whose representatives think, not bearing children of your race or marrying outside your race is genocide.
I live in the Gordius Apartment Complex, my interior designer was M.C. Esher.
he also would have laughed at Trevor's joke
Ah, so you becoming her viewer is the verification, that a) she gains more viewers and b) Noah doesn't. It's called argumentation from personal incredulity, and is a logical fallacy. Here's why you can't verify your statement: viewership is only measured by the Nielsen rating, or DVR lists, and legal downloads. It's extremely hard to follow free platforms, and also to count viewership on a video from end to end, or just viewing snippets of it. Millennial broadcasters use channels, which are hard to put in valuable statistics, the closest would be reviewing subscriptions from this quarter year, except in the case of Facebook, you can subscribe and resubscribe any time with a dodgy use of multiple accounts, so only Blaze itself should be counted as a verifiable source.
Take a different idiom, where, for sh*ts and giggles she would admit to her destructive comments, and after being booed, she would have said "I feel like an elephant in a China shop". If the response is "Is that an Asian thing?" that's racist, but if the response is "Is the a Republican thing?" that's funny, since the elephant is their mascot. And yes, when a few days ago, Noah was out sick, they still went with Klepper saying the Africa joke, with the disclaimer afterwards, that "when you don't know your host will be sick and there's no time to change it". The joke here was twofold, the joke itself was funny, and how Klepper delivered it,that it wasn't he who was supposed to say it.
As they're a comedy show, jokes being made at the expense of the one being interviewed isn't new
it's as American as apple pie),
As a matter of fact, I can. Though they have not yet met, he did meet Stewart and Colbert on several occasions, and can deflect their remarks with humor, with bringing humor of his own. There isn't much I like about the guy, but he does have humor and style, and knows, how Comedy Central works, something Lahren has yet to learn.
Sheet, I had moved the goalposts? Now, that's rich. Your validation for your blanket statement was, that by you becoming her viewer and not his, it must be universally true. Yes, I have demonstrated how difficult it is to actually measure viewership beyond subscription, and that which time frame outside media platforms, like Facebook should be used. As a matter of fact, it is quite impossible to actually measure something being actually watched and not just being on while people do other things.
Who, except you here says that he was a dick. Again, she entered under a barrage of boos (the audience was already aware, who she is), then settled to use the lion's den phrase. There are 2 factual mistakes here: one, the conservative camp is not a homogeneous entity, she could get boos from the Never Trump camp as well, and second: you mustn't have watched a lot of the Daily Show if you think it's libtard, they're just as grilling with Democrats and third parties, but that would destroy the narrative.
It's not Noah's personal agenda, that Lahren is a racist. Now that you became her viewer, watch a lot of her shows, her own admissions damn her without outside interference. You're defending a person who equates a movement that pushes for more transparency and the following of the actual law with a recognizable brand of white supremacy, the latter of which is responsible for almost every domestic terror attack, that isn't being committed by Islamic radicals.
That was funny, I liked your joke, I truly did. She came up with the 18.5 times more likely claim, and had twisted in a way, that does not represent the actual study, and then claim you're not someone who had already made up their minds. If you truly hadn't, you would have gone to the source and called out her BS. It's irrelevant, that the pastry is of English origin, the idiom is "It's as American as apple pie" and yes, being vary of everything, even the things people say you like is one such thing, yet you can't follow through.
Lahren is only as important, as Beck thinks he has use of her. She claimed, that if the new president would go against what he had promised, she would criticize him. In reality, she would have done that already, as he did abandon his loudest of promises. She will only be critical of him, when it's something that personally affects her.
I live in the Gordius Apartment Complex, my interior designer was M.C. Esher.
As a matter of fact, I can. Though they have not yet met, he did meet Stewart and Colbert on several occasions, and can deflect their remarks with humor, with bringing humor of his own. There isn't much I like about the guy, but he does have humor and style, and knows, how Comedy Central works, something Lahren has yet to learn.
Sheet, I had moved the goalposts? Now, that's rich. Your validation for your blanket statement was, that by you becoming her viewer and not his, it must be universally true.
It's not Noah's personal agenda, that Lahren is a racist. Now that you became her viewer, watch a lot of her shows, her own admissions damn her without outside interference. You're defending a person who equates a movement that pushes for more transparency and the following of the actual law with a recognizable brand of white supremacy, the latter of which is responsible for almost every domestic terror attack, that isn't being committed by Islamic radicals.
That was funny, I liked your joke, I truly did. She came up with the 18.5 times more likely claim, and had twisted in a way, that does not represent the actual study, and then claim you're not someone who had already made up their minds. If you truly hadn't, you would have gone to the source and called out her BS.
Dude, that's not moving the goalposts mean. Unlike your claim (Lahren gaining more viewers, than Noah) where objective methodology in regards to viewership that cannot be as accurately measured, knowing a person's past record in interviews with comedians is a different thing, which you would know, had you seen any of his interviews, and the segments he had done on his own show, when Stewart or Colbert was a guest. The Daily Show is still the same, Papa Bear does watch, so yes, an educated guess can be made how it would have went down, for one, it would have been funnier, from him as well.
No, you used plural in both cases, something you can only verify by subscriptions to Blaze and provider packages, that contain Comedy Central after the interview, which are 2 things. You might as well be her viewer from now on, but that wasn't the original statement.
Interesting narrative, and a complete misfire on realizing the difference between criticism and racism. It's a very old populist technique, take the most fringe of any movement, especially if they're not organized centrally, and present them as the core voice. It is the same as claiming this: because Trump was buddy buddy with Fox News, and had used the staff and the platform of Breitbart, therefore all viewers of Fox News also read Breitbart. Except that's factually untrue, for several reasons, one being, that Trump has been taken to task to verify his claims by Papa Bear, and two, ever since Trump disavowed the alt right (to the surprise of noone) Breitbart is dissing Fox News as a bunch of people who sold out (which is ironic, since the founder himself was against a lot of things his legacy now stands for). Many of the so called critics of BLM identify every looter with BLM based on skin color alone. Nobody, including Lahren has ever provided evidence, that any of the looters are registered with the movement. I could buy a South shall rise again tee, that doesn't make me a Confederate, only if additionally believe their goals. Back in the '60s, some small business owners tried to boycott the KKK by not selling them anything, and all what they did was disrobing, and looking like any other white person.
Sure, because Nixon never said, "don't discuss race openly", and welfare, inner city crime are all code for what they actually mean. If any conservative in America would actually want to analyze claims, they'd fill up their ranks with people, who more realistically represent America. When I was close to Lahren's age, I was an ultraconservative myself, and didn't very much listened to any opinion, that opposed mine. In France, Marine Le Pen has managed to successfully court the gay vote against Muslims, she's ahead of Trump. I know, denigrating social groups we don't like does make one feel better, but that's not the way of the future. Democrats might have lost the South for a long time, Republicans however lose almost everyone who isn't white, due to the rhetoric, that the problem only exists, because you don't do anything about it. The fact is, that the GOP isn't the epitome of humanism, and interprets people as haves and soon to haves. That's why many poor white people voted Trump in the hopes he will deter the GOP from further punishing poor whites. Instead, he promoted Bannon, who represents a group who think poor whites are white trash. The KKK of today might be dwindling, but white supremacy isn't. When the Confederate flag was about to be taken down, white protesters shouted to blacks the color of their skin is the same as human waste product, not to mention Dylan Roof, who was in love with the South African apartheid.
I live in the Gordius Apartment Complex, my interior designer was M.C. Esher.
Dude, that's not moving the goalposts mean.
Unlike your claim (Lahren gaining more viewers, than Noah)
where objective methodology in regards to viewership that cannot be as accurately measured, knowing a person's past record in interviews with comedians is a different thing, which you would know, had you seen any of his interviews, and the segments he had done on his own show, when Stewart or Colbert was a guest. The Daily Show is still the same, Papa Bear does watch, so yes, an educated guess can be made how it would have went down, for one, it would have been funnier, from him as well.
Nobody, including Lahren has ever provided evidence, that any of the looters are registered with the movement.
Sure, because Nixon never said, "don't discuss race openly", and welfare, inner city crime are all code for what they actually mean. If any conservative in America would actually want to analyze claims, they'd fill up their ranks with people, who more realistically represent America. When I was close to Lahren's age, I was an ultraconservative myself, and didn't very much listened to any opinion, that opposed mine. In France, Marine Le Pen has managed to successfully court the gay vote against Muslims, she's ahead of Trump. I know, denigrating social groups we don't like does make one feel better, but that's not the way of the future. Democrats might have lost the South for a long time, Republicans however lose almost everyone who isn't white, due to the rhetoric, that the problem only exists, because you don't do anything about it. The fact is, that the GOP isn't the epitome of humanism, and interprets people as haves and soon to haves. That's why many poor white people voted Trump in the hopes he will deter the GOP from further punishing poor whites. Instead, he promoted Bannon, who represents a group who think poor whites are white trash. The KKK of today might be dwindling, but white supremacy isn't. When the Confederate flag was about to be taken down, white protesters shouted to blacks the color of their skin is the same as human waste product, not to mention Dylan Roof, who was in love with the South African apartheid.
Only she gained from this. Noah's squawking echo chamber viewers would whoop and cheer no matter what. She took his accusations and mockery on the chin. She just got more viewers.See, you did use plural, you've redesigned it to sound as if you only meant you being a viewer. On the other hand, making an educated guess on how Papa Bear behaves while he's on Comedy Central is based on something more tangible, his interviews that he had done there. Many commentators and critics have compared Lahren and Noah to O'Reilly and Stewart. O'Reilly has given interviews to Colbert since he switched to CBS, and their back and forth did not change. Yes, we can also make an educated guess, that as of now, Noah would not be ready to debate Papa Bear, but then again, Bill also doesn't make that many outrageous claims as Lahren does.
He did not.
I was surprised by how many missteps Trevor made tonight. it should have been a slam dunk, but she did argue some points clearly and he just left it hanging there.
Case in point was the illegal immigrants verses people trying to immigrate through the present legal channels. Different people have different ways into the country is not a good answer. Would that work with burglary? different people have different ways of acquiring their wealth?
There were a number of different ways to tangent off this point, one being yes I see your point, another being compassion, another being ways to address immigration to make it more fair, or dealing specifically with the amnesty angle,
There were a number of occasions Trevor pleaded impartiality and earnestness when he clearly wasn't interested in that. A bit of grace on his part would have gone a long way to making the taste in ones mouth better at the end of this.
I don't think Trevor was well enough equipped to pull this one off.
He totally owned her.
shareHe could have owned her 10 fold. He messed up far too much. She was an easy mark and he struggled with her. He actually lost some issues to her by leaving them hanging.
Jon Stewart wouldn't have taken it as an opportunity to ridicule someone with school yard jokes either (traffic lights gag, which he then set himself up for and own goal, and she didn't take it????), he would have lead the conversation to make her question what she was saying and shown respect throughout.
On top of that he would have made it funny,........much more funny.
No. What he actually did expose himself as a complete uninformed retard who can't make any point without speaking in hypotheticals, using false premises, moving the goal post, or being snarky or smug. But he said something you trained monkeys want to hear so of course it sounds good. Or can we not make analogies to 'monkey see, monkey do' anymore because a few racists refer to blacks as monkeys so now that word only has one connotation, right?
But like it's been said already. She was a low hanging fruit, and any idiot can still be on the right side of an issue and not know how to formulate their side properly. If he tried that crap against me, he would have been destroyed. I would put him right in his place because someone like him has ZERO right to question any type of oppression from where he sits. Getting a prominent job and gaining immediate success despite having zero talent or qualifications other than being black, and not even an American, so he stole some American blacks job too. I'd rather hear Dave Chappelle or Paul Mooney discuss race in this country, rather than this outsider douchebag who tries to appease the mass boneheads by speaking softly and with that fake sincerity. Total smug douchebag puppet dancing on the strings of the media, whose career is finished one this high school production of this show gets canned. Jon Stewart was actually a counterbalance to the phony narratives the media tried to relay to the American people. This dunce just echos theirs.
New record, 1 minute 58 seconds before mentioning Trump. Longest in months
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