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Excellent complete crucifiction of police...


...and I do mean cruciFICTION. Beating him with their batons for sitting on the curb? He held a gun in the air, not pointed at the officers, and they riddle him with bullets. Riiight.

Typical Hollywood ignorance. Somewhere along the line we got to the point where a man is drunk off his ass, drives at 110 MPH endangering everyone in his path, leads the cops on an eight mile chase, attacks police officers even surrounded by two dozen of them, with police cars flashing and a helicopter overhead, and continues to do so even after being told to stop, being swarmed(and throwing three officers off him), being hit with not one, but TWO volleys of taser fire, and hit over 50 times with steel batons that could kill a man with one hit...is the victim.

After all, what did he do wrong? It was the brutal police, who were so hungry to destroy a black man that they ignored LAPD protocol which would authorize them to shoot him the moment a few baton swings didn't work. You could almost say they kept him alive when they had all the right and reason in the world to kill him. Wow, SUCH brutality.

Wonder what the writers of this movie will think when a policeman saves their ass one day.

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Um...then what the hell was it? Lessee...made by HBO...starring Travolta and Belafonte.

Nah, couldn't be Hollywood.

And I'm talking about the Hollywood attitude of writers, directors, and actors who constantly attempt to lecture the populace because they are so much more "enlightened" than them. I am an actor, and have ranged from Neil Simon to Shakespeare. I just finished the play "Book of Days" and even I came to arguments with the director over the message of the play.

Actors aren't enlightened. A small percentage is. A small percentage of the American public is also percentage. However, the small percentage of enlightened actors are smart enough to make movies that people are entertained by, and that make money.

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...where did I agree to that?

It has happened. It is the exception, as opposed to the rule. To use the exception in a movie that is supposed to be a model of real life is ridiculous. It would be like showing a world where everyone drove lamborghinis. It's a rare occurrence.

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"The whole movie is exaggerated and predicated upon generalizations"

Yeah, tell that to "41" Diallo in New york, who was the dangerous perp who pulled a wallet on the police and got shot 41 times.
Yeah, this never happens in real life.

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"Wonder what the writers of this movie will think when a policeman saves their ass one day."

I know that if a policemen ever saves my ass one day that it wont make me forget all the police officers who harrassed me over the years. you have to love those who cling so blindly to dogma that he/she cannot recognize its failings.

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Even in the UK the police are fux0red, even though 2 or 3 times a week, on TV, we have a programme called 'The Bill' that is a soap opera about how furry and cuddly the police are.

I'll give you a current example of how fux0red police are here:

Jean Charles de Menezes.

He was shot 8 times by anti-terrorist officers in Stockwell tube station. 7 times in the head and once in the sholder.

At the time, the police said that he was a terrorist that had responded to police calls for him to stop by jumping over the ticket barriers in the station, then running down the escalator and onto a train before officers caught up with him and they opened fire after sensing they and other passengers were under threat.

It has transpired that he did not jump the barriers, nor run down the escalator but walked in a calm normal fashion down to the train before getting on and taking a seat.

The UK is the most heavily surveilled countries in teh world with something like 7 cctv cameras per person. Our tube network is saturated in CCTV.

For 3 days after the shooting, the situation was controlled by Anti-terrorist officers, just like the ones who shot Jean Charles de Menezes. The IPCC [independent police complaints commission] was not handed the investigation until then.

It has transpired that with all the CCTV cameras that could uncover what really transpired on the platform that day, the police have said that either the tapes were blank or unreadable yet LUL [London Underground, who operate the tube] have said that all the cameras were fully functional on that day.

Read for yourself: http://www.justice4jean.com/

Let it be known that over 1000 peopel have died in police custody since 1969 and yet not 1 single officer has ever been convicted despite evidence of appalling miscarriges.

All of my friends say that if they get burgled or mugged, they will not or ever would consider calling the police.

If people say that there is an 'us and them' attitude towards the police, it is because they have exerted such an attitude first. An ex-partner of mine was from a police family [her father, brother, cousins, uncles etc were all police. Her aunty was a J.P] and after meeting several of them, they all expressed that attitude themselves. They saw that they were all apart of a club and the rest of us were criminals waiting to commit crimes, whether that was motoring, petty theft or murder.

As Public Enemy said: *beep* the police.

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In New York, it is the LAW for an officer to fire a warning shot before firing at a suspect, and in order to fire, their life/ the life of someone else must be in danger, or they must see a weapon. Diallo, like everyone else said. 41 times. Wallet. Also, in Queens, I think like 2 years ago, a black teenager was shot 6 times, because he was on a rooftop when police seen him. They went to the rooftop to confront him, and he turned around with his hands in his pockets. Bang bang. Rodney King, anyone? No police are ever convicted of anything. Police are supposed to serve and protect, and a lot do, but many just harass people. It's reality

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He wasn't shot 41 times. He was shot AT 41 times while standing in the glass vestibule to his building, but "only" hit 19 . And that(cops missing a literal fish in a barrel more than hitting him)is almost as scary as an innocent being killed by the cops.

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Where did you learn this?

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"As Public Enemy said: *beep* the police."

N.W.A. said *beep* the Police, not Public Enemy, you stupid *beep*

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Very perceptive. I agree completely, good eye.

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Pretty ironic to read this thread nowadays.

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Thing is, while my attitude towards police has changed dramatically, the movie is still heavy-handed and over-the-top.

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It is but at the same time the movie is pretty prescient and bold for pointing out through metaphor "ya know, race relations in America really aren't so hot" at a time when America liked to pretend otherwise.

The cynical ending is also appropriate given the current climate.

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