Where was Keyser Sose name derived from?
Was it an anagram of something written on a cup? Can't remember . . .
shareNo. We don't know where he got the name from, but we do know it already existed before Verbal was questioned by Kujan. Kobayashi was the name written on the bottom of a coffee cup.
shareThe name Keyser Soze exists before Verbal's interview in Kujan's office. Verbal did not invent that particular name. The question is whether or not there is an actual Keyser Soze at all.
shareThe name Keyser Soze exists before Verbal's interview in Kujan's office.
That's what I said.
Verbal did not invent that particular name.
We have no idea of knowing that. For all we know, he may have invented the whole Keyser Soze myth. share
No, otherwise the burnt Hungarian would never have heard of Soze and we know the Hungarian's a real person.
shareHuh? If Verbal created the myth years ago, the Hungarian could still have heard about him.
shareAnd so the Hungarian assumed Verbal was named Soze? In the words of Karl in Sling Blade I have to do some studying on that. The problem is that Verbal is not a very old man yet the Soze myth has been around long enough for that Hungarian who has no apparent connection to Verbal to have heard of it. But, I'll keep studying on it.
shareWhy would the age of the Hungarian matter? The reputation of Soze is infamous enough to frighten him. The myth could've been 20 years old, Verbal could've created it when he first started out his criminal career as a way to gain influence.
shareIf the myth is 20 years old and Verbal is about 30 that means he started the myth when he was 10. I think that you love the idea of there being no such person as Keyser Soze. I admit the idea intrigues me too, but what I see in the movie indicates that Soze is a real person.
shareKevin Spacey was 36 in 1995, Verbal could even have been older. He could've created the myth when he was 18. But it doesn't matter how old the myth is, just that people believe he's real and are afraid of him. It wouldn't be believable either if the myth is many decades old. Who's afraid of an old man?
but what I see in the movie indicates that Soze is a real person.
I don't agree at all that the movie indicates that. The story about Turkey seems absurd and was clearly inspired by the cigarette box with the Ottoman motif on the detective's desk. But if he's real, does that mean he's Verbal? Because in that case we still have the age issue. share
Verbal is Soze but the filmmakers weren’t careful enough and made him too young to plausibly be a terrifying legend who slayed his own family long ago, just as they slipped up when they had Verbal tell law enforcement that he recently shot a defenceless man in the head at point blank range… with no reaction from the officer(s) and no consequences for Verbal.
It’s a great film but it’s not perfect.