Dean Keaton was kaiser Soze
The type of man who could wrangle the wills of men, like Fenster and Mcmanus.
seriously though, there is room to argue he was Soze.
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There's room to argue that any one of Keaton, Verbal or Kobayashi was Soze (some have even suggested that it was Redfoot), or that Soze doesn't appear in the film at all, or that he doesn't even exist. That's what makes the film so interesting - it doesn't give the viewer a clearcut answer. It's interesting to note that Gabriel Byrne thought that he was playing the part of Soze until he saw the completed film.
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you just don't know in this film what is lies and what is real, it's great because it's so unusual.
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Verbal was absolutely Soza. He was ready to post bail and leave. As soon as his name was brought up by the cops, he couldn't resist but gloat. Damn, watch the very beginning again, when he pisses on the trail of fire. It's not completely liquid. It's thick, cause he was dehydrated, just like he say's when he asks for the coffee. He told it all 'I'm telling it straight, I swear' he just changed names. Tell me every last detail. When Kujian said 'I'm smarter than you' That was a challenge. So he told him EVERYTHING just to *beep* with him.
Yeah also the gold lighter and the watch from evidence again dead giveaway that he was in fact the shooter.
I think the part that really gives away he was Soze was when he starts walking normal and then we all realize he's not really crippled. That's when it hit me that he was Soze and that he was pulling the strings from out in the open the whole time right in front of everyone's noses. The fax was really unnecessary at that point but again it was intended to drive the point home in case there were still any doubts.
And yeah that whole made up story he told in the office was just to mess with the detective. At that point he didn't need to say anything because he had his immunity.
The film is much more effective when Kujan realizes that he just let the Devil himself walk out free and I believe that to be the Director's intention all along. The film's ending just wouldn't have the same impact any other way.
The whole Soze legend itself was more BS so people would never think it was him. Also done to strike fear of course.
Also, don't forget the famous tag line which pretty much gives everything away. "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn't exist"
Even back when I watched this film a long time ago I thought all this was made pretty clear there really was no ambiguity. I mean its fun to come up with new theories and of course anyone is welcome to view the film however they want but this is really not one of those films that leaves you really questioning much in the end or at least not the stuff that really matters. If there would have been more ambiguity perhaps I would have given it a higher rating but in this case it was all pretty clearly spelled out in the end. Still a top-notch film!
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This is correct.
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"...Gabriel Byrne thought that he was playing the part of Soze until he saw the completed film."
Yep.
And, apparently he wasn't too pleased when he found that out
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As much as I respect Byrne and his work, I do think the actor is being a chump about it. There's no proof Keaton died on that boat. The only tie to Keaton being shot & burned is Verbal Kint's testimony, which everyone should understand is a fabrication. The movie may had demonstrated Keaton dying in multiple segments, but the movie is presenting visuals of an unreliable narrator. Keaton may have actually been Kaiser Soze, successfully executed his target, and never got shot, and Kint is just following through with his end of their contract.
And no, in the 1990's, they weren't going to get DNA evidence from a thoroughly barbequed corpse (but perhaps a convincing dental match).
Really? I don't recall having any doubts at the time I saw it. Maybe it's time for me to re-watch.
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