What will happen to Mills?
What would be the most likely outcome after what he did at the end?
shareSome prison time. He did empty his gun into an unarmed, handcuffed prisoner.
Let's be bad guys.
A judge may not convict him due to the circumstances. The law look after their own. His career would be done though I agree.
Cardboard Box is the Future.
A "temporary insanity" plea could perhaps stick. After all, who wouldn't lose their mind when they found out that their spouses had been decapitated?
And mandatory psychiatric/psychological care, which he probably would be more than willing to get anyway.
It's such a weird circumstance, that's why the film is so great. If you asked 1000 people if Mills deserved full punishment if it were real life I'm sure more than 95% would say no. I think if I was Mills I would've done the same, his life was just destroyed in an instance.
shareI agree he probably would have entered a plea of temporary insanity particularly as he had just found out about the baby. I don't think he could have kept his job though.
shareThe judge is irrelevant.
In our society (based on English law) the Jury of the People determine guilt, and I don't think you could find anybody willing to imprison the detective. They would consider it "justice" to see a murderer getting killed by a grieving husband.
A judge can not overrule a "not guilty" by a jury.
A defendant can choose a bench trial over a jury trial.
shareIn our society it is the Jury of the People who determine guilt, and I don't think you could find anybody willing to imprison the detective. They would consider it "justice" to see a murderer getting killed by a grieving husband
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They would consider it "justice" to see a murderer getting killed by a grieving husband
Not everyone. I'm sure plenty of people would see it as a cop gunning down an unarmed, handcuffed prisoner.
Going with the tone the movie lays out (living in a crapsack world), Mills would do some time.
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Not everyone. I'm sure plenty of people would see it as a cop gunning down an unarmed, handcuffed prisoner.
Going with the tone the movie lays out (living in a crapsack world), Mills would do some time.
If it were trial by jury, good luck getting 12 strangers to agree on that. You might get at most 2-3 SJW's adamant that Mill's should do some time, but the bulk of the jury would be just as adamant that he should go free. The 2-3 would NEVER sway all of the remaining jurors, so it would either be "endless" hung juries, or the majority would sway the 2-3 to the not guilty side.
The most likely outcome would be a plea deal and a slap on the wrist, ie. no prison time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PUE8fYxjq8
This man planned and executed what was essentially first degree murder, and did no time. He plead no contest to manslaughter and got 5 years probation. Mills would get something similar. share
Again, based on the themes and tones the movie itself sets down, Mills does time. It would be very easy to get 12 strangers to send him to jail because that's the crapsack world the movie takes place in.
You might get at most 2-3 SJW's adamant that Mill's should do some time,
Yikes. Why is it only a SJW who thinks cops shooting handcuffed, unarmed suspects should be subject to some type of penalty?
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Yikes. Why is it only a SJW who thinks cops shooting handcuffed, unarmed suspects should be subject to some type of penalty?
But despite being handcuffed and unarmed John Doe is still in the process of carrying out a complex plan to torment and destroy Mills and drive him to kill. Also, the crime Mills committed is not murder. It falls under the category of voluntary manslaughter by reason of provocation.
I don't think there's any possibility that Mills would have done a custodial sentence. Yes, there would have been a small number of people who would have been moral absolutists who would have been willing to convict him on a murder or manslaughter charge that carried custodial time (and that wouldn't just be left-wingers as the poster talking about SJWs implies, I think there would equally be right-wingers who might want to convict based on inflexible religious convictions), but if you laid out the facts of this case to a jury and gave them a choice between not guilty by reason of insanity or sending Mills to jail - for killing the most sadistic serial killer of recent times who had just murdered his wife and unborn child, I don't think many of them would be willing to countenance jail time. It's difficult to get juries to convict cops in any case, let alone one with such extreme circumstances.
The District attorney wouldn't want this to go to trial. Mills would get a plea deal that carried some counselling and probation. Mills probably wouldn't be allowed to be a homicide detective anymore but there'd be enough sympathy for him that he could probably get a desk job if he wanted to remain in law enforcement. But whether he goes to prison or not is irrelevant to Doe's punishment for Mills. His punishment is that he has to live with the murder of someone he loved.
Again, based on the themes and tones the movie itself sets down, Mills does time.
I don't see that at all. It's a depressing story but it's not set in a world where everybody always acts as a cruel moral absolutist. In fact one of the themes is that John Doe is unique in acting that way. share
Again, based on the themes and tones the movie itself sets down, Mills does time
I seriously doubt it, good luck finding 12 jurors who would agree on that. People have committed far worse in real life, ie what was essentially first degree murder in plain site of numerous police officers, and copped a plea deal that saw them serve zero time. At worst, Mills would have been offered something similar. Mill's punishment was having to live with the fact that his wife was murdered and head chopped off. share
good luck finding 12 jurors who would agree on that.
In the movie, it'd be super easy. Just write them to do that. Again, I'm stating this based on the setting of the movie's world. It's a crapsack world. So, he'd receive a crapsack sentence.
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