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It just depends on whether you are such a big fan of the Outer senshi. If the anwser is "yes", you will probably find that the story should have been revolving more around them. If the annwser is "no", then people will simply put aside that presupposition and simply enjoy the story as a whole (since Three Lights are obviously the highlight here).
I think that assumption is not quite true. First of all I think that there is pretty common that Outer Senshi are a big favorite among Sailor Moon fans. So if you barely have spot light to them, or if you have little spot light, I believe that many of those fans should think Sailor Stars lacks big deal of having those senshi on the plots and episodes. Specially if you add newer characters if you can't or won't chose to work with the ones you got previously and that there are quite popular.
Anyways, I can believe that even if Outer Senshi are not you favourite characters, a Sailor Moon fan can agree that the number of episodes they appeared compared with the number of episodes the other characters appeared, is pretty low. But especially, I can imagine a Sailor Moon fan that Outer Senshi are not their big time favourite saying that the one season that finally has all of them, specially Pluto and Saturn (that never got the chance of spot the other Sailor Senshi had), is a complete wasted opportunity the writters had in their hands. Finally giving to the fans what many wanted. For instance, Saturn having a transformation sequence, Hotaru being at school, having an episode with her and Chibi-Usa finally together again. Add some deep scenes and with more complexity. Showing Chibi-Usa finally leaving and not just vanished from an episode to another. What Sailor Moon fan wouldn´t like to see more scenes at Haruka, Michiru, Setsuna and Hotaru's house rather then they just appearing in the beggining and in the end of the serason? Yeah, maybe Sailor Stars fans don't remember that but I believe many people that loved Sailor Moon S or Sailor Moon R would want it.
I think that is the theme of Spider-man, but not Sailor Moon. To me, Sailor Moon was about love winning over hate, as well as innocence that is stronger than evil.
I don't know about Spider Man but in almost every single season and daily battle, the Sailor Senshi had clearly and regularly a bad time to deal with major villains. Sailor Moon as well. Her power is clearly unleashed by her emotions, by her thoughts and tears. Ayways I think we don't disagree much on this. With one different word or another.
The Dragon Ball Z comment is pointless. Sailor Moon was never about action, but about emotions. For me, Stars stayed true to the previous seasons, especially in the poetic way that Usagi wins over Galaxia at the end.
Sorry if you didn't like the comparison. It wasn't to offend and I really love Dragon Ball Z but I don't think a season whose major enemy just kills everyone in such an easy and simple way is like Sailor Moon. At all.
But I agree that the way Sailor Moon wins over Galaxia is somehow more related to Sailor Moon spirit.
The most emotional weight was given by the plot in which Usagi is separated by Mamoru, and her forbiden feelings for Seiya. Their relationship is incredibly emotional to me.
Even that I think it could be deeper. The season had pretty strong scenes of joy, laughing and comedy which should/could be much more balanced with deeper thoughts and scenes. For me Usagi and the plot is much serious when Mamoru breaks up with her in R season than the episodes she is waiting for a letter from him that never reaches. She waited an entire season to tell the others what was going on and for Usagi we all know... it seemed to me she should've said something much earlier, specially with Seiya after her. Yes, she was being more mature and growing up but to the point she is in denial for such a long time? Anyways I can understand how you feel about being more emotional to you but for me it was really different.
Don't really understand the reasoning here. It is normal for a show to change at least some aspects after a while, especially after 200 episodes, in order to surprise and avoid being predictable.
The Commonwealth countries have an old saying abut the monarchy (which I don't agree 100%) that is: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I can only relate these changes to the changes Falcon Crest did in 1989-1990 final season. In a way to being renewed and catch a new feeling to the series, they completely changed the opening music, the credits and so on. It turned out to be a flop unfortunately. I actually liked some changes but it wasn't the same. The point is: Falcon Cres was low in ratings and needed changes. They couldn't save the show. But Sailor Moon... didn't needed so many changes like they put it. Yes, many people say (and I agree) that after Sailor Moon S, getting rid of Outer Senshi wans't exactly the best move. But adding them again is one thing. Making the world and universe being all Sailor Senshi (which was at that time something that only these chosen ones could be) was way too much IMO. It looses the spot.
The senshi still were given enough "spice" in the story. Just take the scene where Seiya has a day off and says to Usagi that he will spend the day with her - Ami overhears that and her reaction in the vein of "don't ask, don't tell" is gold.
I just don't think it was enough giving the previous seasons plot lines. Sure, they made the season crowded with Sailor Senshi (in theory) and many people couldn't work with so many favourite characters. If this was one of the reasons than I'll just say they should've worked with other producers.
I don't know where they were, but somehow, it is compatible with the main theme of the storyline: Chibiusa is gone, Mamoru is gone... It seems as if they created a mood for the last of the last seasons of Sailor Moon and we sense it, as if we all have to move on. Usagi is feeling lonely and abandoned, and in tune to that, many characters are gone, including her dad and brother, to underline that trend. This gives Stars a melancholic charge.
I can definitely see where you coming from but if no one talks about those losses then you don't have a case neither a melancholic aura. Sure we can feeling one because we are fans and try to understand but no one talks about absences besides Mamoru that is quite hided. Mamoru's absence is pretty light treated, Chibi-Usa seems to never existed, just like Usagi's family, Rei's granpa, Usagi's brother, Umino, Naru Osaka and I'll add at least Hotaru and Setsuna Setsuna gets one episode with Sailor Moon, which was great to add but besides that we just have characters that were simply dropped with no explanation. As a fan I think that was outrageous. But to Sailor Stars fans, I can try to understand the reasons you explained but I don't really see how can you like the other seasons if a season like this one is your favourite :( Even the colors changed! Sailor Moon was deep in strong colors, blues, pinks, greens and almost every episode seems like summer or fall in the end of the day. But this is a minor aspect anyways.
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IkuharaKunihiko
10 years ago
Anyways, I can believe that even if Outer Senshi are not you favourite characters, a Sailor Moon fan can agree that the number of episodes they appeared compared with the number of episodes the other characters appeared, is pretty low.
See, that's the problem. You are making statistics of in how many episodes *this* and *this* character appeared in. Don't do that. It is presupposition. Art is not about the percentage of events or characters that "must" fill out a certain amount of time. Sometimes less is more.
But especially, I can imagine a Sailor Moon fan that Outer Senshi are not their big time favourite saying that the one season that finally has all of them, specially Pluto and Saturn (that never got the chance of spot the other Sailor Senshi had), is a complete wasted opportunity the writters had in their hands. Finally giving to the fans what many wanted.
In short, only this anime title would please you: "Sailor Uranus" (1992).
For instance, Saturn having a transformation sequence, Hotaru being at school, having an episode with her and Chibi-Usa finally together again. Add some deep scenes and with more complexity. Showing Chibi-Usa finally leaving and not just vanished from an episode to another. What Sailor Moon fan wouldn´t like to see more scenes at Haruka, Michiru, Setsuna and Hotaru's house rather then they just appearing in the beggining and in the end of the serason?
Hotaru was shown in school in S, and Chibiusa's sudden absence in Stars from one episode to another was extremely effective for me because I never expected it to be so swift. I expected a long, clichee goodbye sequence, but this was much more stylistic. The same goes for the Hotaru transformation scene - it would not be bad to have one, but on the other hand, it does not add nothing to the overall story.
We can have an infinite number of possibilities of any story, but at the end of the day, someone has to draw the line. You can even complain about "Back to the Future" because they did not go to the stone age, or to the Middle ages, or to the Ancient Greece... But the authors decided to pinpoint a story at the present one. The same goes for this. All your complains above - that only mention Outers - reveal what your problem is. You want it to be all about the Outers. I don't mind it being about them, but also don't mind it *not* being about them, but about Sailor Moon.
Take my advice, or don't, but: Try to watch it with an open mind. I did, and I loved it.
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Poseidon01
10 years ago
See, that's the problem. You are making statistics of in how many episodes *this* and *this* character appeared in. Don't do that. It is presupposition. Art is not about the percentage of events or characters that "must" fill out a certain amount of time. Sometimes less is more.
The same way I always saw people saying Classic had too many filler episodes, Black Moon Clan had just a few episodes and too many characters they didn't could developed well, SS had many filler episodes as well. Whats the real problem with that? It's not percentage of events. Its called opinions and screen times for these or those characters.
In short, only this anime title would please you: "Sailor Uranus" (1992).
First of all I'm okay with the anime title. Second of all I think S season was pretty balanced with every Sailor Senshi they had to work with and I don't remeber any unpleased fan saying this was almost the Outer Senshi show. I think it's an exaggeration, sorry.
Hotaru was shown in school in S, and Chibiusa's sudden absence in Stars from one episode to another was extremely effective for me because I never expected it to be so swift. I expected a long, clichee goodbye sequence, but this was much more stylistic. The same goes for the Hotaru transformation scene - it would not be bad to have one, but on the other hand, it does not add nothing to the overall story.
Here it is. That's why I don't like this arc at all. What you do call a "clichee" is just what Sailor Moon is about. Some people might call it cheesy. Usually people that say this are people that don't really got into the spirit of the show, sorry for the comparison but that's how I feel. This goes for Chibi-Usa's farewell, for Hotarus transformation, for having more scenes with her at scholl and so on. I call it drop storylines, drop charcters, drop all the feeling of the show. But eventualy I would be okay with this if I got another two seasons like this (I guess). I don't know. Since it was just one season like this, I could never get it.
Well, I didn't complained just about the Outer. Really you're out of what I mean. I talked about Chibi-Usa, the way Mamoru was away and how Usagi reacted, Inner Senshi barely had their storylines. But who would you want me to talk about since there was probably no more characters? Like almost every supportive character were just dropped with no explanation in this season.
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