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What's The Deal With Richard Helms Eyes In His Garden/Office?


Is it just me or was he wearing black contact lenses---to look satanic? There's a shot where he's inspecting his orchids and he's he's got no corneas. All black.

Weird effect.

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Helms was evil. So it's all metaphorick-y.

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I was afraid of that. This is where, for me, Stone's work often jumps the shark. He's a great filmmaker but a -better- filmmaker doesn't feel the need to beat people over the head with symbolist messages. Just telling the story should be enough.

I was hoping against hope that this was just a problem with my TV set. :D

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I was afraid of that. This is where, for me, Stone's work often jumps the shark. He's a great filmmaker but a -better- filmmaker doesn't feel the need to beat people over the head with symbolist messages. Just telling the story should be enough.




Well, then, what were you anticipating: that Stone was saying Helms had a medical condition which caused blood to pour into his eyes upon sniffing an orchid?

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No, I really thought there was something wrong with my eyesight. I had a tough time believing what I was seeing. Seems almost like an SNL gimmick.

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The entire movie is exaggerated.
The movie is great for if you want to see Oliver Stone's commentary on the world told via a fictional retelling of Nixon's life but if you want a proper realistic portrayal of Nixon and the thousands of individuals that surrounded him, you'll have to find a biography and not an Oliver Stone movie.

W. and JFK are also exaggerations, FYI.

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The entire movie is exaggerated.
The movie is great for if you want to see Oliver Stone's commentary on the world told via a fictional retelling of Nixon's life but if you want a proper realistic portrayal of Nixon and the thousands of individuals that surrounded him, you'll have to find a biography and not an Oliver Stone movie.


"you'll have to find a biography". Gee, just any biography?



W. and JFK are also exaggerations, FYI.


FYI: W and JFK are toned down, if anything. Sometimes, the truth is stranger than dramatization.


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W and JFK are toned down, if anything

lol - you really think so?

Gee, just any biography?

a proper biography.

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a proper biography.

Oh, that's brilliantly instructive.

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What do you want from me?


The only point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't go to Oliver Stone for biographical factoids about Presidents as his works are filled with metaphors, social commentary and opinionated views.
You are not going to get the correct image of anyone from his movies. But his image of said character.

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It's to show that Helms was pure evil or evil incarnate.
It happens at the moment Nixon says that there is something worse than death - which is evil.

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It creeped me out. Some might see it as a cheap effect, but it worked on me.

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I thought it was the best scene in the entire film.

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