MovieChat Forums > Just Cause (1995) Discussion > Good entertainment, stinky ideology

Good entertainment, stinky ideology


So, if I well understood, expeditive and instinctive justice won against objective investigations... Wow ! Pretty demagogic movie !

reply

The way I understood it is that white liberal guilt and the race card won over an open and shut case. The ending was just deserts for Bobby Earl.

reply

I agree with the OP, this film is like a bad pro-death penalty advertising. I was just browsing the external reviews links, and I think Richard Scheib from Moria.co.nz says it far better than I could:

"Worse is the political subtext. At the beginning of the film, Sean Connery is put on the spot regarding his stance on the death penalty and asked if he would not want vengeance if his wife and daughter were threatened. The rest of Just Cause acts as a virtual descent into red-blooded vigilantism for Connery. His attempt to stop Blair Underwood going to the electric chair is entirely about him symbolically giving up such academically distant notions as the liberal justice system and having to learn at close quarters why the death penalty is justified. Expectedly his wife and daughter do get to be threatened and in very direct terms he is forced to stand up and defend them by killing. The whole film is really a pro-death penalty statement written in the crudest possible terms."

I'm reading the novel right now, and it's a far better work. For starters, the main character is just a journalist, not an anti-death penalty activist, and also we get some bad vibes from Bobby Earl right from the start. This two simple things manage to avoid what I feel are the film's worst mistakes, turning the whole plot into a discussion of death penalty (this is not "Dead man walking, just a popcorn flick) and cheating the audience regarding Bobby Earl.

reply

When Connery gives that statement at the beginning of the movie in which he says clearly that he would not want to submit to the kind of justice that serial killers themselves live by, it's a perfectly reasonable idealogy, and one that too many films so often try to prove wrong.

So why does this movie disagree with him? Why does it try to prove him wrong, too?

Like A Time to Kill, this is another one of those crass movies made in 1995-1996 (in the wake of the O.J. Simpson trial) that was made purely to give dumbed-down audiences what they want: eye-for-an-eye justice. It's a real shame, too, because this movie has so many great things going for it: the top-notch performances by Connery, Fishburne, Capshaw and Harris; the surprisingly good direction by Arne Glimcher, and the crisp photography of the Deep South.

But I think what pisses me off the most about the movie is that it disregards the reasons as to WHY the Bobby Earl character does so much harm in the world (not to mention how his death at the end will matter to the Ruby Dee grandmother, who still loves him dearly) in favor of having him killed off quickly to satisfy moviegoers who want that pathetic rush that one gets from watching a villain get their just desserts. The movie also tries to make a case that torture and sheer inhumanity are acceptable--that it's okay for cops to torture their suspects into confessing a crime, or that it's okay for criminals to be castrated. That's disgusting.


"What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter."

reply

Wrong, this movie was released in February 1995 and written in 1993-94, long before the OJ trial had concluded in October 1995. A Time to Kill is based off a book written in 1989.

reply

You know damn well you like seeing villains get their commeuppances.

reply

I can't agree more. While the movie's entertainment value is high, it's dumb ideology is unsettling.

Toward it's end, I felt seriously misled, cheated. And angry about having voluntarily spent 102 minutes getting tricked.

reply

I didnt think it was an issue of ideology at all.
I thought it was just a poorly written movie. Its your basic crime thriller and would not have interested anyone in Hollywood at the time because it wasnt impressive in any way. So somebody added in all the political rhetoric to make it seem like it was something different, (not to mention it helped secure some good talent), and when they got done telling the story of a man fighting the system they finished off the movie with the standard thriller twist-ending.

In fact if you got into it as an above-average crime movie or a brutal telling of the problems with justice in this country, you would have been pretty ticked off with the ending. The first two acts feel so unlike the 3rd its sort of a F.U. to the audience. All the stuff you were made to believe in the beginning turned out to be bogus and more of a time waster than anything else.

But at lease we got some really great performances out of the deal.

reply

Great acting by Sean Connery, Laurence Fishburne and cast. Did seem a bit like a standard detective story with a twist and an underlying agenda...

reply

Having read the book I think it was handled better. First of all he is a journalist, who gets Bobby out because the evidence did point to the police *beep* up (he flat out states that yes the serial killer was in the area at the time, and that the circumstances made it easy to convict based on prejudice) and the cop himself concedes that beating bobby was a stupid move in hindsight. He outright says "I should never have allowed it I was professional I knew too much…." He just let his feelings (the girl was his daughters friend and her father had given him a job during the civil rights movement, when tensions were at an all time high). It's not, he was justified beating him cause he was guilty, it's more "he let his emotions cloud his judgement, and while bobby earl was guilty, that was incidental."

reply