In this week's episode, the gang plays judge, jury, and executioner as they tag along with Sly Stallone and, ugh, Rob Schneider in the 1995, sci-fi stinker, Judge Dredd! Who's more over the top - Stallone or Assante? Why were we given so little James Remar? And just how big is too big when we're talking codpiece sizes?
http://www.whmpodcast.com/2011/11/episode-31-judge-dredd.html
Check it out.
They'll probably rip Karl Urban's "Dredd" to Shreds too.
shareBased on the early reviews already out for Dredd, which are all positive btw, I very much doubt it'll be subject to anywhere near the same level of ridicule as Stallone's Judge Dredd in-name-only.
Tesla was robbed!
Early reviews for Scott Pilgrim were positive too and it didn't do exactly well at the box office . . .
shareThanks in no small part to the incredible damage Stallone's Judge Dredd mockery did to the brand, the upcoming movie may indeed under perform big time. No one has any illusions there.
More to the point of your initial comment; according to those who have seen it, the new movie is indeed solid, and there is very little that anyone can credibly "rip to shreds" in it. That is more than what can be said for the Stallone movie.
Tesla was robbed!
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In this week's episode, the gang plays judge, jury, and executioner as they tag along with Sly Stallone and, ugh, Rob Schneider in the 1995, sci-fi stinker, Judge Dredd! Who's more over the top - Stallone or Assante? Why were we given so little James Remar? And just how big is too big when we're talking codpiece sizes?
http://www.whmpodcast.com/2011/11/episode-31-judge-dredd.html
Yeh well some of us don't think it's a stinker and whilst it's not perfect we think it's been given a bad rap unfairly over the years. this film might have more fans than you think.
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"Yeh well some of us don't think it's a stinker and whilst it's not perfect we think it's been given a bad rap unfairly over the years. this film might have more fans than you think."
What surprises me is that the hardcore fans hated de '95 movie because it wasn't "exactly like the comics". Now they have a movie which is pretty much about Dredd killing perps for 90 minutes straight and they apparently love it. Turns out that's what those oh-so-smart fans actually like from the original comics: hardcore violence and blood, MOAR BLOOD.
And to think they'll try to make YOU feel stupid for thinking that this movie wasn't that bad... Pfft.
What surprises me is that the hardcore fans hated de '95 movie because it wasn't "exactly like the comics". Now they have a movie which is pretty much about Dredd killing perps for 90 minutes straight and they apparently love it. Turns out that's what those oh-so-smart fans actually like from the original comics: hardcore violence and blood, MOAR BLOOD.Not true, and you know it.
Please, Norse Sage, don't give me that. The reasons why JD'95 flopped will never be clear, same thing that happens with every movie that flops. Otherwise, the studios would have already devised the perfect formula for not flopping. Saying "JD '95 flopped because it was terrible and people justly abhorred it" is just wishful thinking.
You see, as a lifelong Transformers fan, I can tell you that the Bayformers movies rape the classical characters and stories in a much worse way than this movie ever did with JD, (Optimus Prime goes around shooting people in the head in cold blood, the once proud and rebellious Megatron is now the lackey of some quickly made-up über-villain, etc.). And let's face it, they're much more popular in the States than Dredd will ever be. Not only that, the scripts (although I'm not sure they qualify as "scripts" at all) are godawful, nonsensical and full of racist and sexist jokes. And guess what? People love them. They're insanely succesful. So allow me to spit all over that "argumentum ad populum".
What about Tim Burton's Batman? It's not really like the comics at all. Batman's MO in it is to bomb and machinegun the criminals instead of just knocking them out and handing them to the police, and they have the Joker murder his parents (instead of the small time criminal Joe Chill) just for the drama. Bruce Wayne is not the charming billonaire playboy he pretends to be in the comics, but a slightly socially awkward geek who forgets where things are in his own manor. Yet again, huge success.
My take on why Dredd '95 failed? It failed because it was poorly marketed (it was presented in the trailers as a hardcore futuristic thriller when it turned out to be more of a goofy comedy) and got an R rating when R ratings were not fashionable (not totally justified, BTW, because the movie wasn't all that bloody after all). Therefore, the gorehounds who went to the theater to see Sly graphically blow the heads off three dozen criminals were presented with a sci-fi action comedy which they must have regarded as "kiddie stuff". So I'm reasonably certain that it flopped due to poor marketing and people "not getting it".
This new Dredd? Oh, they'll get it. Even the Jersey Shore fans will get the damn thing. They won't have to scratch their heads while asking themselves "was that a joke?", "so is Dredd a good guy or a bad guy?".
Congratulations.
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"There's more than enough moral amibiguity in the new Dredd film and there's satire."
Hah, yeah. And of course, that's what people really liked and not the "hardcore violence", eh?
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"I see no reason why anyone can't like it all or only certain part"
Then apply that same philosophy to the '95 version.
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